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re: Super Bowl: Greatest offense in NFL history vs the best defense in the NFL.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:29 am to Zamoro10
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:29 am to Zamoro10
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And '89 Niners are above them all.
why?
pretty tough to have such a balanced team in today's NFL.
the '89 49ers were a much more well rounded team yet today's game is suited to a much more competitive market thanks to free agency and the salary cap.
but I get it... back then it was so much better because your team use to be king of the hill
makes sense
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:32 am to TTsTowel
The best offenses I have seen are 1998 Vikings (my personal choice of course), 2000 Rams, 2007 Patriots, and this year's Broncos. I would be tempted to lean with the Vikings or the Broncos.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:39 am to LooseCannon22282
Raiders are my team...
Not the Niners.
'89 Niners could do everything. GOAT QB/GOAT WR/Good TEs, solid running game.
You couldn't defend them.
They rolled through the post-season like no other team has rolled through the post-season.
So why, you ask?
Even the '00 Rams, '98 Vikings, '07 Pats and '84 Dolphins didn't roll through the playoffs.
Niners did.
They proved it on the field and in against the best competition when it mattered.
Not the Niners.
'89 Niners could do everything. GOAT QB/GOAT WR/Good TEs, solid running game.
You couldn't defend them.
They rolled through the post-season like no other team has rolled through the post-season.
So why, you ask?
Even the '00 Rams, '98 Vikings, '07 Pats and '84 Dolphins didn't roll through the playoffs.
Niners did.
They proved it on the field and in against the best competition when it mattered.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:43 am to Zamoro10
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Raiders are my team...
prayers sent
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:55 am to Zamoro10
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Even the '00 Rams, '98 Vikings, '07 Pats and '84 Dolphins didn't roll through the playoffs.
Niners did.
They proved it on the field and in against the best competition when it mattered.
are you going to sit there and tell me that the L.A. Rams were better competition for the 49ers in 1989 than the Tampa Bay Bucs were for the STL Rams in 1999???
don't try and compare the defenses of each club.
they aren't even close.
The '89 Rams had a mediocre defense at best while Tampa Bay's 1999 defense was a Top 3 unit.
I'll give you the '98 Vikings but we all know they choked that game away and it wasn't necessarily all on their offense.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 12:57 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:03 am to LooseCannon22282
The teams made the playoffs...
I'm not going to go in and compare every playoff team from every year...
They were the best the NFL had to offer that year...
And FYI, the Niners opponents in the playoffs in 1989...
The Vikings were 6th in scoring defense,
The Rams were 17th in scoring defense,
The Broncos were 1st in scoring defense!
Niners destroyed them all scored 126 points in the post-season!!!!!!!!!
To act like the Niners played non-playoff scrubs in the post-season is bizarre.
I'm not going to go in and compare every playoff team from every year...
They were the best the NFL had to offer that year...
And FYI, the Niners opponents in the playoffs in 1989...
The Vikings were 6th in scoring defense,
The Rams were 17th in scoring defense,
The Broncos were 1st in scoring defense!
Niners destroyed them all scored 126 points in the post-season!!!!!!!!!
To act like the Niners played non-playoff scrubs in the post-season is bizarre.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:10 am to Zamoro10
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To act like the Niners played non-playoff scrubs in the post-season is bizarre
I'm not.
but for you to say they are the best offense ever?
and back then the NFC had some impressive stranglehold on the AFC in the Super Bowl if I'm not mistaken.
could be just that the 49ers just whipped a bunch of false prophets.
maybe that was the case, maybe it wasn't.
I just feel like your punishing some of those teams for not playing in the era that you feel is superior.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:21 am to LooseCannon22282
Not superior.
But definitely different.
Don't talk to me about stats...the game is different now. Like inflation. This isn't some secret.
What the '84 Dolphins did and Marino is worth 5X of what Brees or Brady have done in their great years...and what the Broncos scored this year and yards and yada-yada-yada Roger Goodell...
This is no secret...I'm not revealing something to you - am I?
Are you the last guy in the know, the last guy on the totem pole that doesn't know how much easier it is to score and move the ball in today's NFL?
Basketball on grass....
Not quite sure why you're acting like I am making up some new argument...this is old news - reality.
'89 Niners would score at will in today's game. They did it in a more difficult era to score...not better, not superior - so don't get all rustled...but obviously more difficult to score...this isn't news, this isn't a secret.
This Broncos team is just another product of Goodell's bastardization of the game. Next year somebody will score more and so on and so forth...it increases every year.
But definitely different.
Don't talk to me about stats...the game is different now. Like inflation. This isn't some secret.
What the '84 Dolphins did and Marino is worth 5X of what Brees or Brady have done in their great years...and what the Broncos scored this year and yards and yada-yada-yada Roger Goodell...
This is no secret...I'm not revealing something to you - am I?
Are you the last guy in the know, the last guy on the totem pole that doesn't know how much easier it is to score and move the ball in today's NFL?
Basketball on grass....
Not quite sure why you're acting like I am making up some new argument...this is old news - reality.
'89 Niners would score at will in today's game. They did it in a more difficult era to score...not better, not superior - so don't get all rustled...but obviously more difficult to score...this isn't news, this isn't a secret.
This Broncos team is just another product of Goodell's bastardization of the game. Next year somebody will score more and so on and so forth...it increases every year.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 1:23 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:23 am to LooseCannon22282
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false prophets
They beat John Elway 55-10 in the Super Bowl. I mean c'mon now.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:26 am to Zamoro10
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They rolled through the post-season like no other team has rolled through the post-season.
1985 Bears say howdy.....
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:00 am to JJ27
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They beat John Elway 55-10 in the Super Bowl. I mean c'mon now.
the Redskins beat them 42-10 a few years earlier in the Super Bowl.
they scored 35 points in one quarter for Christ sake.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:09 am to Zamoro10
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Are you the last guy in the know, the last guy on the totem pole that doesn't know how much easier it is to score and move the ball in today's NFL?
where did I try and compare a team from today's game to the 1989 49ers?
you listed a few teams with good offenses from different years and talked about how they struggled in the postseason. So I happened to have disagreed with a few.
but know here you are just rambling about some bullshite and how Goodell has ruined the game.
quote:
Basketball on grass....
yeah, try telling that to Rob Gronkowski or Randall Cobb... hell... even Navarro Bowman.
the game is SOOOO much safer.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:54 am to kilo
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You get the same treatment as the Broncos this year.
An asterisk.
Defense play and rule changes have changed the game too much on the defensive side of the ball to accurately compare with their predecessors.
So that affected the running game how?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:57 am to Sophandros
Anyway, the method to compare across eras is relatively simple. Emphasis on relatively. You compare how teams or players performed relative to their peers and compare that to how someone of a different era did against their peers.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:40 am to TTsTowel
Different rules and they've played an unbelievably easy schedule.
I will say this- other than the lack of a dominant pass rush, this Seattle team is a basically the defense you would assemble from scratch to shutdown the Bronco's offense- if they still had Browner they'd basically start fast tall giants at every secondary position and go 5 deep, I have a strange feeling this might be an ugly game with Seattle just blowing out Denver.
I will say this- other than the lack of a dominant pass rush, this Seattle team is a basically the defense you would assemble from scratch to shutdown the Bronco's offense- if they still had Browner they'd basically start fast tall giants at every secondary position and go 5 deep, I have a strange feeling this might be an ugly game with Seattle just blowing out Denver.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 12:29 pm to TTsTowel
Your title is BS!
Seattle's secondary looks great on paper because they get away with being "physical" to an illegal extent. It works for them, but if they did not take advantage of the officials' reluctance to repeatedly call defensive pass interference and holding, then that secondary wouldn't look so great.
Seattle's secondary looks great on paper because they get away with being "physical" to an illegal extent. It works for them, but if they did not take advantage of the officials' reluctance to repeatedly call defensive pass interference and holding, then that secondary wouldn't look so great.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:03 pm to Gardevoir
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Seattle's secondary looks great on paper because they get away with being "physical" to an illegal extent. It works for them, but if they did not take advantage of the officials' reluctance to repeatedly call defensive pass interference and holding, then that secondary wouldn't look so great.
fwiw, this is nothing new in sports... think rick petino's kentucky teams... they literally fouled on every possession to the point where the refs couldn't call it. Being physical on defense is hardly a new thing.
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