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If anything, yesterday should prove that LSU does not "recruit itself"

Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84968 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:25 am
This board and the Rant have this preconceived notion that LSU can simply show up and pull in Top 10 recruiting classes because of the talent in LA. Of the top 15 committed prospects in LA, according to 247sports, 7 are going OOS. Those 7 are going to 5 different schools – Alabama, Texas A&M, Florida, Ole Miss, and Texas. Granted, LSU did not offer or pursue some of those kids, but that doesn’t discount the fact that there is and always will be a significant amount of competition for LA recruits.

This is not an attempt to bash Wilson or Miles on their recruiting abilities. If anything, it is an appreciation for their ability to recognize that competition and recruit nationally to fill those holes. Sometimes, in fact, many times, a recruiter can do no wrong and still miss out on a recruit. The notion that recruits who leave the state are turning their back on their family is absurd. Hell, I’d make a case it is that line of thinking by the public that pushes kids away. I believe some of these kids feel disrespected by the notion that it is LSU or bust for them if they are an in-state kid.

I believe we’d all be better served if we take a step back and acknowledge that none of these recruits are to be taken for granted simply because they are Louisiana boys. Additionally, if they go elsewhere they are not “spurning” or “shunning” LSU, nor are they “turning their back on their family.” Going to school OOS does not mean you hate LSU, nor does growing up in LA mean you love LSU. The sooner you realize this, the better.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:26 am to
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This board and the Rant have this preconceived notion that LSU can simply show up and pull in Top 10 recruiting classes because of the talent in LA
LSU class currently ranked 6th fwiw.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25948 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:26 am to
This will not go over well


But I think most of this is spot on man
Posted by tc5140
Member since Jul 2009
782 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:29 am to
Louisiana people losing pride on this great state.
Buga nation is setting the tone for the love to return.
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5409 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:31 am to
It proved are "sources", are the worst
Posted by Lago Tiger
Lago Vista Tx
Member since Jan 2011
1069 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:31 am to
We get it . As long as the recruits don't lead us to believe they are LSU's . They are other LA. kids that go elsewhere that we might would a spot for .
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:31 am to
Spot on.

If LSU recruited itself then all of our top recruits would not have left for Florida State and Miami in the 90s.

The wolves are always at the door and vigilance is mandatory to keep them from overrunning the house.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:33 am to
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Going to school OOS does not mean you hate LSU, nor does growing up in LA mean you love LSU.


Louisiana is a weird state as well, largely divided north and south, New Orleans folks think the world revolves around the city, Lafayette natives don't like anyone, anywhere. I-20 corridor loves the Cowboys, etc.
Posted by allsports34
Dallas Tx.
Member since Dec 2010
1269 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:33 am to
Think LF was LSU all the way but after seeing the true freshmen #27 for Alabama last night he wasn't going there..looked like LF's twin.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:34 am to
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The Mick

LSU class currently ranked 6th fwiw.



so you're saying LSU can recruit itself to the 6th ranked class, but not the top?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84968 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:35 am to
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LSU class currently ranked 6th fwiw


I know, but that is because of OOS guys like Jamal Adams and CG as well as the in-state haul. The fact that we are 6th after missing or forgoing 7 of the top 15 committed prospects in the state is a huge compliment to the recruiting staff IMO.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:35 am to
Only idiots would ever say something like "LSU recruits itself."
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1450 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:36 am to
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It proved are "sources", are the worst


No it proved that the sources did their jobs and reported what was told as they tried to sift through what was true and what wasn't. Some of these guys have sources inside the program and staff and recruiting has come to the point where a recruit may tell an actual coach he is coming to lsu only to flip that morning and not tell anyone outside his circle

Our insiders still have their sources and they report what their sources tell them but if their source is lied to it isn't their fault.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:37 am to
Recruits will go wherever they want to go. If you recruit them and they don't come, then you have done your job. I wish they kids would stay home, but I'm sure other states feel the same way about their in-state talent. If we landed everyone from Louisiana, we wouldn't have room for the PP7s of the world.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:39 am to
Not to derail, and I know some folks here don't want this issue to be discussed, but why is money never talked about?

Look, Im not saying that LSU is morally above paying players and the Bama's of the world are the only cheaters, but does anyone on here really believe that compensation for LOI's is no more?

Not trying to flame anyone in particular (B/c I think OP makes some very good points), but is pay for play a factor that the fan base is not considering?

Edit: If pay for play goes on, IMO we are paying as well, but I would question our skin in the game compared to other schools. JMO
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 11:41 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84968 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:40 am to
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As long as the recruits don't lead us to believe they are LSU's . They are other LA. kids that go elsewhere that we might would a spot for


Agreed, but I don't think this happens as much as the pay sites, and to a lesser extent, this board, make you believe. I believe the recruits are pretty conflicted for a significant portion of the process, and the coaches know that as well. Once a recruit has decided, I don't believe there is this widespread effort to lead on LSU or any other schools. The fans and the pay sites are the ones who get trolled, but by and large, the coaches know once the recruits know.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:41 am to
I find it interesting that the parents love LSU and the prospects aren't impressed by us [Tony Brown & Willis are perfect examples]
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:45 am to
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so you're saying LSU can recruit itself to the 6th ranked class, but not the top?
Nonot saying that, just throwing it out there. I really dont know anything about anything tbh.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:45 am to
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I find it interesting that the parents love LSU and the prospects aren't impressed by us [Tony Brown & Willis are perfect examples]




I never heard TB, SN or GW utter a peep about wanting to play at LSU. Instead we got this heresay about how they were just trolling everyone. People that want to be at LSU will find opportunities to at least express interest or say some good things about the school once in a while. The evidence was right in front of us the whole dang time.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84968 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:58 am to
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I find it interesting that the parents love LSU and the prospects aren't impressed by us [Tony Brown & Willis are perfect examples]


Meh, I love my parents, but we've got some things with which we completely disagree. It would be dumb to think the same thing isn't true with alot of these kids.

These kids go to schools for a plethora of different reasons, not all of which are directly related to the teams success on the field. Some are committed to the school, some are enamored with a particular coach or the staff, and some go for family and/or personal reasons. I'm of the opinion that most of recruiting is tied to variables that are, by and large, outside the control of the staff.

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