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ObamaCare/FDA Requiring Vending Machines to Display Calorie Counts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:24 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:24 am
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On the one hand, the average American is increasingly being characterized as an unhealthy, low-information type who could benefit from greater disclosures regarding the food he intakes. Over time, constantly seeing calorie counts may allow him to develop a better barometer for just how healthy or unhealthy certain foods may be, just as the stock investor, after looking through the valuations of scores of companies, eventually acquires a sense for which multiples are low and which are high. For the junk food eater, this is almost definitely an acquired skill. By encouraging healthier eating, we could potentially save costs, and Americans are quick to note when traveling overseas how comparatively obese and unhealthy their countryfolk are, presumably indicative of some recognition of the problem at hand.
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On the other hand, why must everything come at the hand of government with this administration? Why not encourage vendors to begin incorporating calorie counts? The vending machine market is likely controlled by just a handful of major operators. Convincing even one to begin adopting these counts certainly wouldn't go unnoticed, and would likely pose a competitive threat to rivals, encouraging them, too, to begin incorporating this technology. A smaller operator may also have an opportunity to be a first-mover and thereby create increased business for itself or even convince health advocacy organizations to make financial contributions or give it positive press. It seems at least attempting a free market solution first would be the most reasonable option here.
On the one hand, the average American is increasingly being characterized as an unhealthy, low-information type who could benefit from greater disclosures regarding the food he intakes. Over time, constantly seeing calorie counts may allow him to develop a better barometer for just how healthy or unhealthy certain foods may be, just as the stock investor, after looking through the valuations of scores of companies, eventually acquires a sense for which multiples are low and which are high. For the junk food eater, this is almost definitely an acquired skill. By encouraging healthier eating, we could potentially save costs, and Americans are quick to note when traveling overseas how comparatively obese and unhealthy their countryfolk are, presumably indicative of some recognition of the problem at hand.
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The cost will be high for vending machine operators to implement the changes, but the government has a bigger consideration. By the FDA's reckoning if only 0.2% of obese adults reduce their calorie intake by a moderate amount, then the program will save $24M a year in annual health care costs.
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On the other hand, why must everything come at the hand of government with this administration? Why not encourage vendors to begin incorporating calorie counts? The vending machine market is likely controlled by just a handful of major operators. Convincing even one to begin adopting these counts certainly wouldn't go unnoticed, and would likely pose a competitive threat to rivals, encouraging them, too, to begin incorporating this technology. A smaller operator may also have an opportunity to be a first-mover and thereby create increased business for itself or even convince health advocacy organizations to make financial contributions or give it positive press. It seems at least attempting a free market solution first would be the most reasonable option here.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 8:25 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:27 am to RedStickBR
quote:I don't really have a problem with that.
ObamaCare/FDA Requiring Vending Machines to Display Calorie Counts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:30 am to NC_Tigah
I don't have a problem with the idea. I have a problem with forcing it upon private business owners when it, by itself, is not a threat to public safety.
We should encourage an environment where food companies take it upon themselves to increase transparency, not harbor disdain by forcing expensive requirements upon them.
We should encourage an environment where food companies take it upon themselves to increase transparency, not harbor disdain by forcing expensive requirements upon them.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:33 am to NC_Tigah
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I don't really have a problem with that.
The individual items in the vending machine already have the calorie counts on them. This just feels vaguely insulting. I know I'm getting a candy bar not a celery stick, stop telling me my Snickers is the equivalent of 1/2 a meal.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:35 am to RedStickBR
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Over time, constantly seeing calorie counts may allow him to develop a better barometer for just how healthy or unhealthy certain foods may be
Yes, because Joe Shmo will definitely not buy that snickers bar if he knows the calories.
People know vending machine items are generally pretty unhealthy. Knowing the calorie content before purchase, I don't believe, is going to change much.
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The individual items in the vending machine already have the calorie counts on them. This just feels vaguely insulting. I know I'm getting a candy bar not a celery stick, stop telling me my Snickers is the equivalent of 1/2 a meal.
We're too stupid to choose our own healthcare and apparently too stupid to realize a candy bar is extremely unhealthy. Thank God the US government is here to tell me all these things, otherwise I'd be screwed.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:36 am to RedStickBR
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It seems at least attempting a free market solution first would be the most reasonable option
I agree with this.
Regardless, the only people who will read the calorie counts will be the people who CARE about their weight/nutrition.
Americans are notoriously self-indulgent about their "snacks." That's why we're so fat.
JMO based on personal experience I'm working on losing about 15 lbs.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:48 am to NC_Tigah
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I don't really have a problem with that.
And after that? And then after that?
It's a damn vending machine. If you don't know those Ding-Dongs or bag of chips are unhealthy you have bigger problems than a few extra calories.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:01 am to wheelr
I would imagine more vending machine products are bought over the counter in stores. Why shouldn't the info have to be displayed for them also.
Maybe start little and get bigger? The foot in the door syndrome?
Maybe start little and get bigger? The foot in the door syndrome?
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:14 am to Homesick Tiger
The nutrition info is already on the packaging of any food you can buy. Not to mention all of the knowledge you have your fingertips via the internet to research nutrition of your diet.
This is just another ridiculous action that takes the responsibility off the individual and places it on someone else.
It's like people can't do shite for themselves anymore. Having the facts on the God damn wrapper isn't enough?
I'm probably making a way bigger deal out of this than it needs to be, but it chaps my arse everytime I see measures being taken that takes responsibility out of an individuals hands and puts the onus of responsibility on someone other than THAT individual.
People in this country aren't overweight because they are uninformed. It's because they are lazy and/or don't give a shite.
This is just another ridiculous action that takes the responsibility off the individual and places it on someone else.
It's like people can't do shite for themselves anymore. Having the facts on the God damn wrapper isn't enough?
I'm probably making a way bigger deal out of this than it needs to be, but it chaps my arse everytime I see measures being taken that takes responsibility out of an individuals hands and puts the onus of responsibility on someone other than THAT individual.
People in this country aren't overweight because they are uninformed. It's because they are lazy and/or don't give a shite.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 9:15 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:15 am to dcrews
Big FedGov wants to control your lives and control the private economy. It's the key to power for those who advocate massive, intrusive Big FedGov.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:55 am to RedStickBR
Can't you buy cookies, snack cakes, and potato chips with food stamps? If you can be obese on the tax payer's dime then why go through the trouble to have calorie counts on vending machines.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:30 am to RedStickBR
Just another thing for me to ignore.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:31 am to RedStickBR
you people will literally bitch about anything
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
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you people will literally bitch about anything
Just trying to get it all in before it becomes illegal to bitch about the government. Remember, abortion and gay marriage wasn't legal 50 years ago.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:39 am to Homesick Tiger
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Just trying to get it all in before it becomes illegal to bitch about the government.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:41 am to Draconian Sanctions
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you people will literally bitch about anything
Isn't it FedGov that's doing the bitching? After all, FedGov started it because it was unhappy with the way that vending machines are managed. VENDING MACHINES? FedGov will literally "bitch" about and then "correct" ANYTHING. Isn't my assessment here quite accurate?
Isn't it FedGov that's poking it's intrusive nose into something that FedGov was never supposed to be involved in?
Is there literally NO ASPECT of our private lives or the private economy that FedGov will not try to control?
See, if you had a functioning brain, which you do not, you'd share our concerns with these FedGov issues.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
What they should do is have a scale you step on and a laser that measures your height. If your BMI is too high, you can't order certain types of food. Right?
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:43 am to C
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What they should do is have a scale you step on and a laser that measures your height. If your BMI is too high, you can't order certain types of food. Right?
okay so now giving people informed choices is just a step away from Snickers prohibition?
some of you really are lunatics
Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:52 am to RedStickBR
quote:Huh? Calorie and other nutrition information is labeled on every package of every food sold in America already.
Over time, constantly seeing calorie counts may allow him to develop a better barometer for just how healthy or unhealthy certain foods may be,
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