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The Graduate (1967) (some spoilers)
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:54 am
Finally watched this last night. It's one of those "classics" that I hadn't seen.
I really liked it. Anne Bancroft was pretty fiya, and Katharine Ross as Elaine was pretty gorgeous.
What was weird to me was that I had seen the iconic "You're trying to seduce me" scene/picture numerous times, but never realized that it happens so early in the film (only like10 or 12 or so minutes in).
Dustin Hoffman's character was such an awkward dude, and sort of a prick to boot.
All in all, it was a pretty fun/funny movie, and I'm glad I finally got around to watching it. I as a little disappointed in the ending, mainly at how it sort of ended so abruptly and awkwardly. But all in all I really liked it.
Oh, and it immediately made the last 15 minutes or so of Wayne's World 2 much more awesome/funny than before. I never realized just how much of that part was taken from The Graduate. I was cracking up thinking back to W'sW2 as the end kept going.
Any fans of this one? Thoughts? Etc.
ETA: Forgot to mention the soundtrack. It was awesome. S&G are great.
I really liked it. Anne Bancroft was pretty fiya, and Katharine Ross as Elaine was pretty gorgeous.
What was weird to me was that I had seen the iconic "You're trying to seduce me" scene/picture numerous times, but never realized that it happens so early in the film (only like10 or 12 or so minutes in).
Dustin Hoffman's character was such an awkward dude, and sort of a prick to boot.
All in all, it was a pretty fun/funny movie, and I'm glad I finally got around to watching it. I as a little disappointed in the ending, mainly at how it sort of ended so abruptly and awkwardly. But all in all I really liked it.
Oh, and it immediately made the last 15 minutes or so of Wayne's World 2 much more awesome/funny than before. I never realized just how much of that part was taken from The Graduate. I was cracking up thinking back to W'sW2 as the end kept going.
Any fans of this one? Thoughts? Etc.
ETA: Forgot to mention the soundtrack. It was awesome. S&G are great.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 3:50 pm
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:58 am to CocomoLSU
Classic.
Great cameos by Norman Fell (Mr. Roper), Richard Dreyfus, and Ben Murphy (Alias Smith & Jones)
And great performance by the film's writer, Buck Henry, as the hotel clerk.
Great cameos by Norman Fell (Mr. Roper), Richard Dreyfus, and Ben Murphy (Alias Smith & Jones)
And great performance by the film's writer, Buck Henry, as the hotel clerk.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:01 am to Fewer Kilometers
Also didn't realize Anne Bancroft was married to Mel Brooks (I guess I knew that, but had forgotten it). Or that Katharine Ross was married to Sam Elliott.
Also, I was reading about it last night about how the differences in ages of the actors weren't really that much compared to their characters.
Mrs. Robinson was supposed to be a much older lady, but AB was 36 when it came out. Hoffman played a freshly graduated collge student, and he was 30 when it came out. Elaine was in college, but KR was 27 at the time.
Also, I was reading about it last night about how the differences in ages of the actors weren't really that much compared to their characters.
Mrs. Robinson was supposed to be a much older lady, but AB was 36 when it came out. Hoffman played a freshly graduated collge student, and he was 30 when it came out. Elaine was in college, but KR was 27 at the time.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:07 am to CocomoLSU
One of my favorite 60s movies.
A funny scene is when Mr Robinson comes home just
as Ben was leaving a naked Mrs Robinson in the bedroom early in the film. He has sweat pouring down his face and can only utter nervous grunts as
Mr. Robinson talks to him about plastics.
There are some familiar faces in it also.
Elizabeth Wilson (Ben's mother Mrs Braddock) also played 'Roz' in "9 to 5."
Murray Hamilton (Mr Robinson) played the Mayor in "Jaws."
Norman Fell, the landlord, played the landlord in "Three's Company."
Alice Ghosley and Marion Lorne were both in "Bewitched."
Richard Dreyfuss, Mike Farrell (MASH), and Kevin Tighe (Emergency) had small roles.
Noam Pitlik (Gas station attendant 'Good luck, Father') played one of the cops on "Sanford and Son.
A funny scene is when Mr Robinson comes home just
as Ben was leaving a naked Mrs Robinson in the bedroom early in the film. He has sweat pouring down his face and can only utter nervous grunts as
Mr. Robinson talks to him about plastics.
There are some familiar faces in it also.
Elizabeth Wilson (Ben's mother Mrs Braddock) also played 'Roz' in "9 to 5."
Murray Hamilton (Mr Robinson) played the Mayor in "Jaws."
Norman Fell, the landlord, played the landlord in "Three's Company."
Alice Ghosley and Marion Lorne were both in "Bewitched."
Richard Dreyfuss, Mike Farrell (MASH), and Kevin Tighe (Emergency) had small roles.
Noam Pitlik (Gas station attendant 'Good luck, Father') played one of the cops on "Sanford and Son.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:10 am to MetryTyger
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Murray Hamilton (Mr Robinson) played the Mayor in "Jaws."
shite, I knew I knew him from somewhere and couldn't place it. And I didn't want to look it up last night. But that's exactly where I knew him from: Jaws. Thanks.
Honestly, I just kept giggling like an idiot at the end because of all of the similarities to Wayne's World 2.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:14 am to CocomoLSU
Love that movie
Glad i watched it before Arrestd development S4. The GOB hello darkness my old friend jokes were hilarious to me
Glad i watched it before Arrestd development S4. The GOB hello darkness my old friend jokes were hilarious to me
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:24 am to CocomoLSU
An interesting companion piece to this film - at least for me - is The Last Picture Show - sort of a forgotten classic, while The Graduate has fared much better through the years, at least on a popularity level. They follow similar themes, and have similarly exceptional casts - across the board.
The Graduate resonates, particularly as a universal theme of the post-war kid making his way from high school to adulthood and how awkward that process can be.
Hoffman's performance is somewhat weak here, but for many of us (myself included) it wasn't the first thing I saw him in. After seeing him in movies where he had matured and increased his skillset as an actor, All the President's Men, Kramer versus Kramer, Tootsie and Rain Man - heck, even Midnight Cowboy and Little Big Man showed marked improvement in Hoffman's acting over The Graduate, although he was not bad in it - just overshadowed, somewhat, by the outstanding supporting cast. After all he did draw an Oscar nomination for it - although I still feel it was on the strength of the film, rather than his adequate, but not necessarily outstanding individual performance in the film.
In an early effort from Nichols - he is one of those masters of walking the line between drama and comedy - hard to put anyone above him in that category - perhaps the Coens equal him on a good day. Looking at his body of work, he's certainly in my top 10 directors.
The Graduate resonates, particularly as a universal theme of the post-war kid making his way from high school to adulthood and how awkward that process can be.
Hoffman's performance is somewhat weak here, but for many of us (myself included) it wasn't the first thing I saw him in. After seeing him in movies where he had matured and increased his skillset as an actor, All the President's Men, Kramer versus Kramer, Tootsie and Rain Man - heck, even Midnight Cowboy and Little Big Man showed marked improvement in Hoffman's acting over The Graduate, although he was not bad in it - just overshadowed, somewhat, by the outstanding supporting cast. After all he did draw an Oscar nomination for it - although I still feel it was on the strength of the film, rather than his adequate, but not necessarily outstanding individual performance in the film.
In an early effort from Nichols - he is one of those masters of walking the line between drama and comedy - hard to put anyone above him in that category - perhaps the Coens equal him on a good day. Looking at his body of work, he's certainly in my top 10 directors.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:25 am
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:40 am to Ace Midnight
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Hoffman's performance is somewhat weak here
quote:
his adequate, but not necessarily outstanding individual performance
Agreed. He was the weakest part of the film IMO.
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hello darkness my old friend
That's something I forgot to put in the OP...the soundtrack was awesome.
And it also can be seen parodied in Old School when Frank shoots himself in the neck and falls into the pool.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:44 am to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight
The Graduate (1967)
An interesting companion piece to this film - at least for me - is The Last Picture Show - sort of a forgotten classic, while The Graduate has fared much better through the years, at least on a popularity level. They follow similar themes, and have similarly exceptional casts - across the board.
That period from '67-'72 was great for film.
The Graduate, Bonnie and Clyde, To Sir With Love,
Willy Wonka, In Cold Blood, In The Heat Of The Night, Reflections In A Golden Eye, Cool Hand Luke, The Reivers, Love Story, Slaughterhouse Five, The Last Picture Show, Kelly's Heroes, Midnight Cowboy, Deliverance, The Sterile Cuckoo,
Poseidon Adventure, Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex, etc.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:51 am to CocomoLSU
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Agreed. He was the weakest part of the film IMO.
Hoffman was kind of out of his element here, as well - he was a "late bloomer" film wise - here he was - right at 30, playing 21 year old, recent college graduate. They paired him with Bancroft (Mrs. Mel Brooks, thank you very much), who was supposed to be his parent's age, yet was only 6 years older.
And he was in approximately 90% of the scenes of the film - so he was carrying a big load. He had just barely been making a living acting before The Graduate - but was, obviously, a gifted method actor - just a little inexperienced, particularly for such a big film role.
I guess I should cut him some slack - he was surrounded by a very, very talented cast in this movie - which can show your weaknesses or inexperience.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:53 am to MetryTyger
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Bonnie and Clyde
Bought that one a while back too...I plan to watch it soon.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:54 am to Ace Midnight
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right at 30, playing 21 year old, recent college graduate. They paired him with Bancroft (Mrs. Mel Brooks, thank you very much), who was supposed to be his parent's age, yet was only 6 years older.
Did you read the thread at all?
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:56 am to CocomoLSU
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Did you read the thread at all?
Yeah, I just saw it - after the fact.
ETA: I honestly thought I was caught up. I saw you edited, but well before my contributions.
Doesn't make me wrong, just redundant.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:03 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Great cameos by Norman Fell (Mr. Roper), Richard Dreyfus, and Ben Murphy (Alias Smith & Jones)
None of those actors were famous in 1967. Hell, it was Murphy's first acting job. So it wasn't so much a cameo as it was a small part.
Iconic movie.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:18 pm to Jay Quest
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None of those actors were famous in 1967. Hell, it was Murphy's first acting job. So it wasn't so much a cameo as it was a small part.
Thanks for doing a cameo in this thread. Now off with you.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:23 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I can't wait till 50 years from now, being all like "I remember when Jay Quest made his cameo in my M/TV Board thread. Great performance.."
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:40 pm to CocomoLSU
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I can't wait till 50 years from now, being all like "I remember when Jay Quest made his cameo in my M/TV Board thread. Great performance.."
HE WASN'T FAMOUS IN 2013!
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:42 pm to Fewer Kilometers
One of my all-time favorites. I can't tell you how many times I've seen it.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:49 pm to FalseProphet
"Are you here for an affair?" is one of the best lines ever, and Buck Henry gave it to himself.
Posted on 12/26/13 at 2:50 pm to FalseProphet
I am 100% doing this scene next time we have a M/TV Board Paint thread:
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