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All these new fantastic series VS all of Hollywood's latest "movies"

Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:14 pm
So I have recently watched House of Cards, Breaking Bad, and I am on season 3 of game of thrones .... I'm finding that I don't even really have a desire to watch a 2 hour movie ...especially if they are like any newer movie that I have seen lately... It just doesn't compare... I can't even think of a movie over the last few years that compares to these "shows" ...can you ?

I don't quite have it all figured out though... Is it that the acting and the plots are just that much better? Or is simply the longer story lets me get to know the characters more to really buy in to the acting... This game of thrones is unreal.... It's some of the best acting I've ever seen...and it's every single character ... How did they pull this off ?

If you have HBO and you aren't watching this show, you don't know what you are missing.... I just got done with this scene:

LINK

How they are able to make a hot blonde chic with dragons NOT CHEESY is beyond me ... I would have thought that was impossible...

BTW: she gets butt a$$ naked a earlier in the series...is that it maybe ????

This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:29 pm to
Read the books, Hodor.

They're the real prize.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:35 pm to
I've been watching movies whenever theyre released on dvd but I havent been to a movie theater since the first week of June and I probably went to 10 movies in 2012. All because I have gotten into watching different series.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:38 pm to
Soap operas didn't die; they just moved to prime time and acquired better production values. Movies are more fatiguing because they're longer than a series episode, and they necessarily have to compress their story to fit their rigid format, which gives the creators less time to develop the characters and story, and less time for you to develop an interest in it. And once a movie's over, that's it for that world, at least until the sequel a few years later. I think it's much harder to create a great movie than a great series, because a movie needs to accomplish in 2-3 straight hours what a series gets to do in 12 or more one hour chunks.
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10599 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:41 pm to
yea but i watch 3 episodes a night b/c it's so good !!
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

yea but i watch 3 episodes a night b/c it's so good !!


Yeah, that's the mark of a good serial.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:56 am to
quote:

Read the books, Hodor.

They're the real prize.


This is the correct answer
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:36 am to
quote:

I can't even think of a movie over the last few years that compares to these "shows" ...can you ?


Movies have to be much more efficient to get you that involved in a story. It happens - Inception a notable example.

However, you're correct - over the past 10 or 15 years, great actors have been either coming to television or television actors (e.g. Bryan Cranston) get vehicles that really allow them to shine. The better story writers and multi-layered plotlines are possible with these series and once you get to 3 or 4 seasons, for sure, you're actually talking about filmed novels, rather than classic film media.

Because the studios seem primarily interested in tentpole movies targeted at teenagers, don't expect to see anything like the quality of the high end television shows (and I just arbitrarily set The Sopranos as the breakpoint when television became clearly better than film for almost all purposes, except big budget, special effects driven films.)

Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:00 am to
I still much prefer movies.

I simply don't have time to sit down week after week and watch a TV series (let alone multiple series, like some people seem to do). With a movie, I know when it starts and when it ends, and I can watch it all in one sitting. And top movies are still better than top TV shows IMO (though, admittedly, I don't watch much TV).
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 10:01 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:04 am to
quote:

. And top movies are still better than top TV shows IMO (though, admittedly, I don't watch much TV).


I can help you out here.

What do you consider a "Top Movie"?

What do you consider a "Top TV show"?

Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:06 am to
quote:

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As badass as that "Dracaris" scene is, its even better in the book. Read them brah.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Because the studios seem primarily interested in tentpole movies targeted at teenagers


Big, big problem with the movie industry right now.

Until this idea phases out, I don't see it slowing down any time soon.
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10599 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:27 am to
quote:

And top movies are still better than top TV shows IMO (though, admittedly, I don't watch much TV).


Until you watch some of these series you will never understand b/c you are flat out wrong and it's not even close...The production value, the writing, the character development, and mostly the acting are far superior ....
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:43 am to
I fully agree with you. There's something about series like BB & GoT that fully immerse you into their universe that a 2.5 hour movie can't do. Both series are great at peeling away layers of characters. GoT in particular has you thinking you have someone figured out, and they're very different from what you thought originally. The ASOIAF books do a better job at that than the GoT show, but the show still succeeds in conveying that, especially compared to all the other series out right now.

I recommend for you to read the books once you finish S3 and to try reading at least books 1-3 before S4 starts.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:46 am to
quote:

The production value, the writing, the character development, and mostly the acting are far superior ....


When you have guys like Steven Buscemi and James Woods - upper tier character actors with virtually no television experience - coming in to headline a series? That should tell you all you need to know about the quality of acting.

Again, shows like The Wire (mainly unknown guys with television or blended backgrounds), The Sopranos (LOTS of gangster film actors) and The Shield (core cast was mainly unknown/television, but was able to attract Oscar caliber actors like Forrest Whitaker and Glenn Close in later seasons - plus their directing was top notch), among others, marked a paradigm shift in what a television series could be - i.e. a filmed novel - although all three of those shows were still strongly rooted in the episodic format - the threaded storylines really drove the series.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34337 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:46 am to
Interesting thought.

I like more movies than I do tv shows though. I'm not saying there will be a movie this year that in itself I would prefer over GoT, but give me a couple years I can still find a number of movies I really like.

quote:

Is it that the acting and the plots are just that much better? Or is simply the longer story lets me get to know the characters more to really buy in to the acting


That's not why. Acting as a whole, movies > tv. That's comparing good movies to good tv. You do become more attached to the characters though which is nice. So I guess I can love individual characters on a given tv show than I do a movie.

I'm just confusing myself. I guess it boils down to that I have only truly loved a handful of TV shows, while it would be impossible to count how many movies I love.

GoT is the greatest tv series of all time though
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:51 am to
I say that GoT is the best show on TV right now. You have no idea how much I'm looking forward to season 4 . The last 1/2 of ASoS is the most crazy of any book I've ever read.
Posted by WhoDats10
Member since Dec 2012
1580 posts
Posted on 12/21/13 at 10:44 pm to
tv shows are given more time to develop stroies and characters
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