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Jarrell Martin
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:21 pm
Just wanting opinions of his play early on..? Kid is 6'9" and has a huge upside. You can tell he's having a hard time adjusting to the college game. I've seen him settle for way to many jump shots over the weekend. Would like to see him slash his way to the basket more. I like this team's make-up. Malik Morgan was a pleasant surprise today and we will need him down the stretch in SEC play. JOB was money as usual and Jordan Mickey continues to be the biggest addition to the team. Anxious to see where this team ends up after the SEC tourney. Geaux Tigers!
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:34 pm to basiletiger
Sky's the limit for him IMO. He's still trying to hone in on his role and essentially play multiple new positions after playing exclusively low post in high school at a tiny school. He hadn't even been playing basketball long and he was hurt 30 seconds into his career. Most who know what they're talking about knew that he would have some growing pains and we're seeing that in him and the rest of the team. We're still trying to solidify roles and establish chemistry. People need to give it time. If you'd read the game thread you would think we lost by 30 rather than won. I really like where we are, all things considered. It's SO early and we've already beaten 3 teams that could be in the tourney and lost close to two others. Not bad.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:37 pm to basiletiger
With comparing him to other 5 star guys, I think he's having a hard time adjusting because of the Class B division he played against in high school. Other 5 star guys in high school goes against top flight talent night in and night out. Almost every time Jarrell stepped on the floor in high school he was the best guy on the court and no one could out muscle him, stop him from scoring, etc.
Now he's going against guys with similar capabilities and he's having a hard time adjusting to it. My advice to him would be stop settling for all those long as jumpers and start putting the ball on the floor and get to the basket. Also he should get his big arse on the block when there are smaller people guarding him. Right now, he's very predictable to guard.
Now he's going against guys with similar capabilities and he's having a hard time adjusting to it. My advice to him would be stop settling for all those long as jumpers and start putting the ball on the floor and get to the basket. Also he should get his big arse on the block when there are smaller people guarding him. Right now, he's very predictable to guard.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:47 pm to basiletiger
I've been a little critical of his aggressiveness and the way JJ wasn't getting him shots. The two curls and drives for easy buckets today was the first time they ran that this year. I still think he should play some 4 and force him to post up his man. He ran the court better today to and got some garbage looks. He needs to be a dbl digit scorer for us to get where w want to go.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:49 pm to redfish99
He's going to be a good one,but talk about one and done is a joke he is no way ready for that maybe three and done.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:53 pm to BIG CAT
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He's going to be a good one,but talk about one and done is a joke he is no way ready for that maybe three and done.
Maybe wait a little after December 1 before you're so set on this.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:54 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
he needs more time at the 4. im fine with him at the 3 to start games. he needs to pass the ball better, but it is slowly starting to come together for him. these 12 days off should do him if anyone lots of good
Posted on 12/1/13 at 5:56 pm to S
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he needs more time at the 4
I agree with this.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:01 pm to lsu2006
when johnny needs a rest against teams like butler i wouldn't mind seeing jarrell and mickey in the low post together
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:03 pm to basiletiger
Personally, I think he'll be the 2nd best offensive option by year end. He's smooth, can finish, and isn't scared to take the open jumper. Yeah, he's settled for the open J too much early on, but he's a freshmen. I don't get why people think he can't develop enough to be one and done. I certainly don't want him to be, but come March, I bet we'll see a totally different player. Again, I want him to stay, but his potential is unbelievable.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:06 pm to TigerBite
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I don't get why people think he can't develop enough to be one and done. I certainly don't want him to be, but come March, I bet we'll see a totally different player.
These are people that don't actually know what they're talking about.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:08 pm to basiletiger
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Just wanting opinions of his play early on..?
I agree with your assesment basile. He hit some jumpers against St. Joe and I don't necessarilly think that was a good thing because he seemed to settle for that each of the next two games as well and wasn't hitting any.
I don't think he's as polished or as instinctive as Mickey is right now but I've seen enough glimpses of the athleticism and some offensive moves that he can develop to be as good as he chooses to be.
Lot of work to do defensively, and I'd like to see him a bit more phyical and agressive on the boards.
I think he felt coming in he had a chance to be one and done. Not so sure about that.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:10 pm to TigerBite
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Again, I want him to stay, but his potential is unbelievable.
If he decides to go pro, he'll be drafted on talent alone imo. He'd still be a project though regardless of his improvement this season. With a deep draft class and the possibility to develop in college, I think it's reasonable that if he stays, he could tremendously improve his draft stock for next year.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:17 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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If he decides to go pro, he'll be drafted on talent alone imo.
I agree with that. I have seen some projections before the season started of him going as high as NO. 34 or not getting drafted at all.
I don't think he's done much to this point to move the needle in his favor in that regard.
As some have said, relative to many of his star-studded peers, he started playing basketball late, and though his team played up alot and he played AAU ball, he hasn't been at it as long and at the same level as most.
I certainly think he'll improve and develop, but looking at some of the other highly touted frosh play this year, he's got alot of catching up to do.
Now he may be willing to go early even if he's a second round pick and I think if that's the case he may well by the end of the year work his way up to that level or a bit higher.
Just keep an eye on the mock drafts. They'll evolve as the year goes and you can get a pretty good concensus of where he is by looking at multiple ones.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:18 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
It takes time man,go and look at some of the other highly rated guys and you will see there are very few that's tearing it up.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:21 pm to basiletiger
I 'll refer back by my prediction from June where I said:
"I think Martin will underwhelm a bit, while Mickey will exceed expectations."
You can tell early on that he's got some ability. However, even though he was a McDonald's AA, he was a guy that got national recognition relatively late in the game and as others said, played against relatively weak competition. He looks a bit lost on defense and overwhelmed at times, but those two curls late in the game were encouraging. He shoots FTs well and has a good stroke. By SEC play he should be more effective, but right now Coleman might be the better option at the 3.
"I think Martin will underwhelm a bit, while Mickey will exceed expectations."
You can tell early on that he's got some ability. However, even though he was a McDonald's AA, he was a guy that got national recognition relatively late in the game and as others said, played against relatively weak competition. He looks a bit lost on defense and overwhelmed at times, but those two curls late in the game were encouraging. He shoots FTs well and has a good stroke. By SEC play he should be more effective, but right now Coleman might be the better option at the 3.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:24 pm to cowboy4ever
Saw a lot of good things from him in the second half today. Ran a few sets for him going to the basket and he looked very comfortable getting the ball going to the basket. Plus he seems to be one of our better FT shooters, which is important with how things are being called in the early part of this season.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 12/1/13 at 6:27 pm to Alt26
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I 'll refer back by my prediction from June where I said:
"I think Martin will underwhelm a bit, while Mickey will exceed expectations."
I got the same vibe. I saw Martin play in a couple of all-star games and while I didn't see Mickey I heard he blew up some tourney he played in.
Then at a tip-off function one of the assistant coaches was gushing about Mickey more than any other player....unsolicited.
I thought based on those things Mickey would be more ready to contribute significantly early than Martin.
No knock on Martin. We all know he started late to the game...he'll be fine. Sometimes we put too much expectations on the stars and expect them to be all-americans from jump. That's pretty rare.
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:03 pm to basiletiger
he's playing out of position imo
Posted on 12/1/13 at 7:17 pm to basiletiger
I'm not giving opinions till his ankle is 100% and SEC play is half way over. So far, so good imho. I will say it again..... Top 25 team by mid January. Probably a #7 or 9 seed in NCAA. Great win today. 
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