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5.56 $ cost philosophy vs Russian rounds
Posted on 11/15/13 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 11/15/13 at 7:57 pm
5.56 will be here..........always.
Whether or not the Military goes to a different caliber (which we all highly doubt), too many civilians have bought 5.56 chambered AR's.
With that being said; take a look at 5.45x39 and 7.62x39.....why are they so much cheaper?
(By November of 2013)::::
5.45 is around 18 cents per round.
7.62 is around 24 cents per round.
5.56 is around 31 cents per round.
When the Russian surplus dries up (and I could be wrong...it may never dry up), then American companies may pick up the slack and keep making the two AK rounds...keeping it cheap.
I have to ask, though, if it is a local product with the scary thought of China making 5.56 and flooding the market with "our" caliber; why hasn't the 5.56 severely undercut the 5.45/7.62?
Are there that many AK 47s and AK 74s (in America...not the world) out there that keep the Russian rounds down in price? Is the corrosive surplus the reason that there is no discrepancy in price?
So many questions about 5.56.
SHOULDNT 5.56 be cheaper than it is?
*********this is NOT a 5.45 vs 5.56 ballistics/preference thread. Please keep replies to dollars/cents/supply/demand.
Whether or not the Military goes to a different caliber (which we all highly doubt), too many civilians have bought 5.56 chambered AR's.
With that being said; take a look at 5.45x39 and 7.62x39.....why are they so much cheaper?
(By November of 2013)::::
5.45 is around 18 cents per round.
7.62 is around 24 cents per round.
5.56 is around 31 cents per round.
When the Russian surplus dries up (and I could be wrong...it may never dry up), then American companies may pick up the slack and keep making the two AK rounds...keeping it cheap.
I have to ask, though, if it is a local product with the scary thought of China making 5.56 and flooding the market with "our" caliber; why hasn't the 5.56 severely undercut the 5.45/7.62?
Are there that many AK 47s and AK 74s (in America...not the world) out there that keep the Russian rounds down in price? Is the corrosive surplus the reason that there is no discrepancy in price?
So many questions about 5.56.
SHOULDNT 5.56 be cheaper than it is?
*********this is NOT a 5.45 vs 5.56 ballistics/preference thread. Please keep replies to dollars/cents/supply/demand.
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 11:32 pm
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 12:01 am to dstone12
Russian ammo is built cheaper with steel cases and steel jacketed bullets. Even Russian 5.56 NATO is as cheap as the others but market demand raises the price a bit. Prices will go back down eventually.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:01 am to Clames
Are you hesitant to buy Chinese 5.56 when it comes out?
Would the quality need time to be determined?
Furthermore, for the guys out there that are stockpiling 5.56, but don't shoot it enough....would you buy their ammo at a discounted rate or do you want it from the factory?
Would the quality need time to be determined?
Furthermore, for the guys out there that are stockpiling 5.56, but don't shoot it enough....would you buy their ammo at a discounted rate or do you want it from the factory?
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 8:03 am
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:41 am to dstone12
The Chinese (Norinco-China North Industries Corporation) used to make about the best 5.56 round there was, and it was cheap as hell (0.17/rd). Non-corrosive, reloadable brass, etc.
Clinton closed off the chinese ammo supply in the early 90's. I still have about 20 boxes of the stuff.
There will NEVER be a Chinese supply line until the Clinton restrictions are lifted.
Clinton closed off the chinese ammo supply in the early 90's. I still have about 20 boxes of the stuff.
There will NEVER be a Chinese supply line until the Clinton restrictions are lifted.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 10:26 am to CoastieGM
Yea from everything I've read on the subject, the Norinco chinese ammo was some of the best
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:21 pm to TigerTatorTots
Domestically produced commie calibers will likely never be as cheap as Russian/ex soviet bloc manufacturers. Partly because of manufacturing ability and more importantly materials, steel, steel, and more steel. US manufacturers don't touch steel cases and the brass is what is very costly.
Eta: surplus will dry up South African/Greek 308 has all but disappeared. I remember buying South African 308 battle packs for dirt cheap. Haven't seen that stuff in years. Point is, stack deep what you shoot/want to shoot when prices are good. In my experience we aren't gonna see prices lower but only increase over the years.
Eta: surplus will dry up South African/Greek 308 has all but disappeared. I remember buying South African 308 battle packs for dirt cheap. Haven't seen that stuff in years. Point is, stack deep what you shoot/want to shoot when prices are good. In my experience we aren't gonna see prices lower but only increase over the years.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:33 pm to H.M. Murdock
Posted on 11/26/13 at 9:47 pm to dstone12
I've got hundreds of clean, once-fired Lake City brass in 5.56 and 7.62 that I'm going to start reloading once primers and powder are available at prices I'm willing to pay. Even up here in PA, 150rd bricks of Federal green tip are fairly common and are just below $.50/rd after tax. I grabbed a few boxes of Summit and LC 5.56mm before the insanity so I'm in no hurry to buy ammo.
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