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re: Recap: Tigers miss opportunities, lose opener 92-90

Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by T-mart57
Lexington
Member since Jan 2013
762 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:33 pm to
I didnt think we would win all of our OOC games i thought this one was a win and lose in the old spice tourney but this is a good game to start. On the road against a quality team. I dont care what Umass ends up but i have respect for them they played to the end i was a little skeptical but I am still behind this team. 3 seasons ago we would be getting thrown down into the ground and spat on. On the same note, free throws arent hard.
Posted by Doom
Dallas
Member since Jul 2004
3448 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 5:07 am to
I see we still don't value free throw shooting. That is discouraging.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 5:17 am
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23470 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 5:57 am to
Thanks SOS.

UMass was playing its second game, in front of a home crowd. It had a veteran team.

We should only get better, as we gain experience. Add Matin and we win in spite of the ft shooting. Improve the ft shooting and we will have a good season.

Blatant bad call on JOB as their pg pushed off with his left arm cost us the game, as it forced Johnny to sit down the stretch.

I'm excited by the potential of this team. I'm a MickeyMan.
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6841 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 7:23 am to
Well after watching the game on DVR, good effort by the Tigers.

The key to this game wasn't fouls (yes it was terrible) or foul shooting (yes it was also terrible), it was the terrible 3rd and 4th foul calls on JOB.
Once he got on track, Umass had no answer for him. Him sitting down was huge.
And of course Martin getting hurt.

And how good was Stringer

My biggest problem with the fouls was how they would call such a ticky tack foul, yet let Williams completely shove Hickey for the 3 at the end of the half. I know their is a point being made in some, but this was simply a whistle happy crew that did a poor job and we have some of those every year.

And props to Hammink, he catches shite on here but he played a good game and contributed when we needed him.

And of course Mickey, dude is going to be dominant as the year goes on.

Good game, good learning experience for this team.
We need much better production from Morgan, Coleman, and Odo for sure.
Posted by HamBone14
Covington
Member since Jun 2011
1896 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:42 am to
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They missed opportunities. Clearly it is time to fire the coaching staff.


Miles has lost all control of this team.
Posted by lsutigers20
Member since Nov 2013
159 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:44 am to
Tough loss as the opportunities were there, but I was truly impressed on how we played. This season should be a fun one to watch.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:48 am to
Yeah it's difficult to win games shooting 60% from the line. You have to make hay there. The goal should be a team percentage around 80, with a couple guys shooting well into the 80s. Even if we shoot 75% from the line last night, we win by 3. Tough to lose that way for sure, but they're young and I'm sure will be stuck in the gym late doing nothing but working on free throws. Or they should be, anyway.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5622 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:49 am to
Like everyone, I'm disappointed to see free throws be a big reason we lost. Martin should be okay. I believe Moscona said yesterday evening that the staff didn't want to risk putting him back into the game considering it was the first game of the season. It didn't sound very serious, but who knows.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:40 am to
Would have been nice to have a healthy Malone to eat up some minutes while JOB was out with foul trouble. Additionally having a guy like Martin in there at all could have changed everything. That said, 60% from the line and missing as many front ends as we did will rarely end well against quality opponents like UMass.

A lot to be encouraged about, guys.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 10:41 am
Posted by tigerguy26
vicksburg,ms.
Member since Jan 2009
443 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:00 am to
Is there any word on Martin yet?? Couldn't watch the game... What exactly happened to him?
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:01 am to
Lower ankle sprain, they might hold him out a game or two, should be back for Old Spice Classic
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:02 am to
quote:

What exactly happened to him?

Turned his ankle apparently. No swelling or bruising. He'll probably sit Saturday (just a guess) as a precaution.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1368 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:09 am to
Thanks SOS, good write up.

We've got to improve from the line.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155423 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:11 am to
we need to do a better job establishing and enforcing johnny in the paint, especially against teams like umass(their main big defender had 4 FOULS IN THE FIRST HALF) we got a way from that a little at a point where the game was still close. we had to get a little helter skelter when the game started to tilt in their favor early in the second half but when it's close that needs to be our bread and butter. we're gonne be okay.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:13 am to
What was your Prediction for the season S? I don't remember reading yours in the expectations thread.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 11:14 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:15 am to
quote:

we need to do a better job establishing and enforcing johnny in the paint, especially against teams like umass(their main big defender had 4 FOULS IN THE FIRST HALF) we got a way from that a little at a point where the game was still close.

Well, Johnny did get his 4th foul with about 13 minutes to go. I think when he was actually in we were pretty consistently going to him in the paint.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155423 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:21 am to
for starters i expected us to lose yesterday at full strength (with martin) so i was rather encouraged with how they played all things considered. umass is a good team and the fact they played against boston college on sunday had to be a bonus for them.


i think we finish the reg. season something like 21-9 (11-7). hopefully enough to get something like a 9 or 10 seed and the chance to win a game in the dance. our first three conference games are going to be interesting. we can't put ourselves in a hole like last season. tennessee will be tough, ole miss away will be tough and south carolina on the road could be tricky. if we can go 2-1 that would be a huge way to get things started.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155423 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:23 am to
i meant more of the first half where we tried to push the tempo at unecessary times or took quick shots before everything was set. other than that i liked what i saw. they couldn't handle him in the post and not many teams will be able to until sec play starts.
Posted by Britgirl
Ascension
Member since Jan 2013
1176 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 12:36 pm to
I'm wondering why we didn't press earlier?
We really ignited when we pressed. This is a team that loves to press.
Maybe JJ doesn't think the freshman can handle it yet, so we're still not deep enough??

Was at the game sitting 2 rows up from our bench.
Poor Tim was biting his nails sitting there. Real good experience for him, on the road, very loud & hostile crowd.

The push offs and 2 handed pushes into players' backs by UMass that weren't called, were constant, esp. in 1st half.

At one point Hickey was pushed by Williams (for the hundredth time it seemed like) and Hickey was called for the foul! This happened right in front of us AND the ref. JJ was livid. Got on the refs a lot in the 1st half.

However this situation was also great experience and I was really impressed that they didn't let the 1st half officiating get to them.
Individually they were aggravated (watched their facial expressions), but collectively they stuck it out.

Great first effort in spite of the setbacks.
Posted by Sampson
Chicago
Member since Mar 2012
24560 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 1:53 pm to
hopefully there's an update soon on Martin. Mickey was and still is my fav. Player from that class and on the team.
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