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after the anger subsides
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:26 am
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:26 am
Perhaps a more reasonable evaluation can be made.
Saban/Smart are better than Miles/Chavis. They knew OM's QB takes seemingly 5 seconds (an exaggeration, but still .. an awkward, slow arm delivery) to wind up and throw a pass. So they devise a defensive gameplan to crowd the line of scrimmage, blitz, put hits on Wallace before he can wind up and throw. Ala. shuts out OM.
Miles/Chavis' gameplan was to rush 4, sit back in coverage, based upon the belief Wallace would make mistakes and throw INTs. Wallace has a career day.
Attention to detail.
It may seem like a minor thing, but, in the competitive SEC West, where ONE game can make or break your season, there is no margin for error.
Miles is a good, solid coach. Chavis is a good, solid coach. Neither should be fired. But I wish like hell they'd retire. Yes, no doubt, I understand the old saying, "Don't wish too hard for something b/c it may come true." Yes, the Board of Idiots, and Joe Alleva are fully capable of making a truly shitty hire. But I can't help but think there is a coach out there who can recruit, administrate, not diddle the office secretary on a motorcycle, hire expert, cutting edge assistants and coordinators, and win BIG at LSU, without the clock management brain farts, really bad passive defensive gameplans, and apparently lacksadaisical (?) recruiting.
In short, I would LOVE to see what Charley Strong, or Chris Peterson, could do at LSU. But I will support Les and the team. I think he's ready for ESPN Gameday, however.
Are you keeding me?! WOW, what a game, HNAH??!
Saban/Smart are better than Miles/Chavis. They knew OM's QB takes seemingly 5 seconds (an exaggeration, but still .. an awkward, slow arm delivery) to wind up and throw a pass. So they devise a defensive gameplan to crowd the line of scrimmage, blitz, put hits on Wallace before he can wind up and throw. Ala. shuts out OM.
Miles/Chavis' gameplan was to rush 4, sit back in coverage, based upon the belief Wallace would make mistakes and throw INTs. Wallace has a career day.
Attention to detail.
It may seem like a minor thing, but, in the competitive SEC West, where ONE game can make or break your season, there is no margin for error.
Miles is a good, solid coach. Chavis is a good, solid coach. Neither should be fired. But I wish like hell they'd retire. Yes, no doubt, I understand the old saying, "Don't wish too hard for something b/c it may come true." Yes, the Board of Idiots, and Joe Alleva are fully capable of making a truly shitty hire. But I can't help but think there is a coach out there who can recruit, administrate, not diddle the office secretary on a motorcycle, hire expert, cutting edge assistants and coordinators, and win BIG at LSU, without the clock management brain farts, really bad passive defensive gameplans, and apparently lacksadaisical (?) recruiting.
In short, I would LOVE to see what Charley Strong, or Chris Peterson, could do at LSU. But I will support Les and the team. I think he's ready for ESPN Gameday, however.
Are you keeding me?! WOW, what a game, HNAH??!
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Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:26 am to TigerJeff
wut
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:29 am to theunknownknight
Exactly. That's what Les said.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:30 am to TigerJeff
dude, let it go and move on.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:36 am to TigerJeff
IT ALSO HELPS WHEN SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM IN THE COACHES BOX TELLS YOUR COACHES WHAT THE PLAY WILL BE BECAUSE HE CAN EFFECTIVELY STEAL THE CALLS.
Didn't want to leave that tidbit out
Didn't want to leave that tidbit out
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:42 am to MoreOrLes
may want to take into acct
bama D >>> LSU D this yr
so yeah they were more effective bc they are better
bama D >>> LSU D this yr
so yeah they were more effective bc they are better
Posted on 10/23/13 at 9:44 am to MoreOrLes
quote:
after the anger subsidesIT ALSO HELPS WHEN SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM IN THE COACHES BOX TELLS YOUR COACHES WHAT THE PLAY WILL BE BECAUSE HE CAN EFFECTIVELY STEAL THE CALLS.
Hadn't heard that, but its better than last year, when everyone in the stadium, and at home, knew the calls....
Posted on 10/23/13 at 10:34 am to TigerJeff
quote:
Manziel told me at the Manning Camp that scheme-wise LSU gave him more trouble than anyone . Now the players that afternoon, or most of them, aren't around anymore, but he specifically talked about scheme and that was interesting.
Signed Mike Detillier
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Posted on 10/23/13 at 10:42 am to TexasTiger89
Miles and Chavis should retire ...
That's supposed to be reasonable?
That's supposed to be reasonable?
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:35 am to TigerNE
He said "wish" they would retire. I echo those sentiments.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:45 am to TexasTiger89
quote:
Manziel told me at the Manning Camp that scheme-wise LSU gave him more trouble than anyone . Now the players that afternoon, or most of them, aren't around anymore, but he specifically talked about scheme and that was interesting.
Manziel was probably drunk. He probably has no idea what he was saying.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:45 am to The1TrueTiger
Have no problem if chavis came out after this season and said he's hanging it up. His soft zone shite is killing us year after year regardless how bad or good the offense is.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:50 am to TigerJeff
quote:
Neither should be fired. But I wish like hell they'd retire.
Ok now you are being a pussy, if you are going to put this all out there at least stand up for what you said. Firing and retiring are the same thing, you are saying you want them gone. Are you trying to be politically correct or are you afraid the posi-tigers will jump your arse?
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:56 am to TigerJeff
Just curious, why don't you want him fired?? Is it the nice guy family man?? Is it a sense of appreciation for the 07 title?? Is it out of fear of making the wrong hire? What is the prevailing reason many don't want him fired, even his no supporters??
Posted on 10/23/13 at 11:58 am to TigerJeff
They got caught looking ahead to bama, and I don't blame them considering that a new post about bama is put up daily. Even last week before playing ole piss people are more obsessed with bama.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 12:08 pm to DIGGY
News flash for all fans that want Miles fired.
IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Miles record is going to preclude him from getting fired, he will have to have disappointing years back to back "and maybe to back" to get him fired. Look at the UT/Brown situation to understand what it takes to fire a successful coach. And even though not winning NC and SEC championships is disappointing to the fans, 10 win seasons are not disappointing enough to get you fired from LSU with the success Miles has had in the past.
Regarding retiring, let me put it to everyone simply. If you were earning $4 million dollars a year, how quickly would you be stepping up to retire? My point exactly you wouldn't.
Here are the facts the only way Miles is leaving is one of 3 ways.
1. back-to-back-to-back disappointing seasons. Not good for LSU in anyway.
2. he gets hired away. Probably the best option for LSU as hopefully he is not leaving the cupboard bare.
3. Something happens to invoke the morality clause in his contract. i.e. Petrino or an NCAA recruiting scandal that chased Carroll away from USC and Kelly away from Oregon. Again none positive for LSU.
This is not to say I want Miles gone just explaining things for anyone delusional enough to think there is any chance of it at this point.
IT AIN'T HAPPENING
Miles record is going to preclude him from getting fired, he will have to have disappointing years back to back "and maybe to back" to get him fired. Look at the UT/Brown situation to understand what it takes to fire a successful coach. And even though not winning NC and SEC championships is disappointing to the fans, 10 win seasons are not disappointing enough to get you fired from LSU with the success Miles has had in the past.
Regarding retiring, let me put it to everyone simply. If you were earning $4 million dollars a year, how quickly would you be stepping up to retire? My point exactly you wouldn't.
Here are the facts the only way Miles is leaving is one of 3 ways.
1. back-to-back-to-back disappointing seasons. Not good for LSU in anyway.
2. he gets hired away. Probably the best option for LSU as hopefully he is not leaving the cupboard bare.
3. Something happens to invoke the morality clause in his contract. i.e. Petrino or an NCAA recruiting scandal that chased Carroll away from USC and Kelly away from Oregon. Again none positive for LSU.
This is not to say I want Miles gone just explaining things for anyone delusional enough to think there is any chance of it at this point.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 12:26 pm to The1TrueTiger
quote:
after the anger subsides
He said "wish" they would retire. I echo those sentiments.
Wish. Want. Hope. Demand. Pray. Whatever.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 12:38 pm to TigerNE
{after the anger subsides...}
Does anyone have a timeline for this...?
Does anyone have a timeline for this...?
Posted on 10/23/13 at 12:41 pm to LSUnowhas2
quote:
Manziel was probably drunk. He probably has no idea what he was saying.
If you can't refute them, attack their character. Done by idiots for over thousands of years.
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