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North Louisiana + New Orleans = Success

Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:33 pm
I'm no recruiting expert like many here, but I've kept up with it since before the recruitment of Kevin Faulk. Many of you guys may be a bit younger than me, but for those that weren't around then, or aware of it now, the main reason the LSU football program faltered in the early 90's was because we lost the ability to pull the top recruits from North Louisiana and New Orleans. In fact, rare was the stud from NOLA or N. Louisiana stud that chose LSU, most went elsewhere.

Powerhouses like Colorado (Cordell Stewart aka Slash) rose up out of nowhere thanks to La. players, Miami (Ed Reed, Reggie Wayne), Florida State (Warrick Dunn, Travis Minor), Notre Dame (Anthony "A-Train" Thomas, Arnaz Battle, Jamie Spencer) and countless All-SEC players (Ivory Hilliard, Peyton, Eli, Brock Berlin, etc etc etc more than I can remember)... but you get the idea it's a long list of very accomplished players from Louisiana who never wore the P&G.

Dinardo started building the pipelines when he "brought back the magic" and Saban capitalized on and solidified it. Miles has since done a good job continuing those relationships. The reason LSU is "back" is because we regained our ability to recruit the boot effectively and rebuilt the fence around it.

But since returning to the SEC Saban has paid his dues by offering the lesser recruits in the early years of the process and has made the inroads. He's starting to reap those benefits of today. Collins, Devall, Robinson, Lacy... all gone. And now with new SEC powerhouse (with really big $$$) moving in next door (A&M) they're also making in-roads with local talent (Darian Claiborne - and others) ... aka "paying their dues". It will only be a matter of time until they eventually pick off a 5 star talent or two, they're already in the discussion for several. (I know for a fact, Les wasn't wild about A&M being part of the conference simply b/c of their ability to aggressively recruit La.)

The fence around Louisiana is in need of reinforcing. There are no gaping holes, aside from the tunnel that Alabama has started to dig and the obvious efforts that A&M is making. But make no mistake, the more top talent that is pulled to out of state schools the more our program is directly affected. The more Devalls we lose, the more Welters we play. The more Collins' we lose, the more Martin's we play. Who replaces Cam Rob?

The sky isn't falling, but we've got work to do and every stud we lose is one we have to steal from underneath another top talent.

Assuming that local kids are coming to LSU just because they're from Louisiana is no different than thinking you're going to show up in Oxford and win just because we're better than Johnny Reb.

LSU has got work to do and the job ain't getting any easier. Just wanted to throw a little perspective out there....

Good luck Les and
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:38 pm to
Thanks for ID ing the problem.


Care to give you opinion of a solution?


Do we hire yaw yaw footbaw?
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:45 pm to
Carnell hatcher was not aka slash. You're thinking Cordell Stewart from john ehret hs
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14849 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:46 pm to
Well, I think one thing that has hurt LSU is forcing kids to camp before getting an offer. I think other universities have taken advantage of that and offered kids that LSU hadn't or wouldn't because of camp.

I also think LSU has to get on these kids EARLIER. It looks like Les has started doing that with the young U-High player, and guys like Tolliver and Voorhies. That's very smart IMO.

The other thing is that Les has to get his shite together on the field. Find new mistakes to make and stop making the old ones. Unfortunately (fair or not) you're going head to head against Saban and Bama for your top kids, you'd better compete with them on the field one vs. one, on the recruiting trail and in perception (ie - their perception of Saban as a coach vs. their perception of Miles).
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14849 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:47 pm to
Oops sorry, you're right... mental typo, got it confused with his little brother Carnell Stewart (and Carnell Hatcher), who did play for LSU. I edited.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 10:49 pm
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:49 pm to
No problem. I always remember him cause several years ago I lived next to a guy whose claim to fame was he was slash's backup in hs.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60314 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

You're thinking Cordell Stewart from john ehret hs



Is that Kordell's brother?
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:59 pm to
Must be. Nobody would have figured it out If not for your enlightening us.
Posted by Memphis
Fenway Park
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 10:59 pm to
jj, answer your mail. k thx.
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:06 pm to
LSU football has suddenly become less attractive. It's pretty obvious the talent slippage on defense. Not just youth either...a lack of speed and playmakers. If Fournette bolts the state, it's curtains for this program. From a perception standpoint it would be a death blow to recruiting going forward.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75218 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:13 pm to
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LSU football has suddenly become less attractive. It's pretty obvious the talent slippage on defense. Not just youth either...a lack of speed and playmakers. If Fournette bolts the state, it's curtains for this program. From a perception standpoint it would be a death blow to recruiting going forward.


Well said. Agree 100%
Posted by horndog
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Member since Apr 2007
11654 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

LSU football has suddenly become less attractive. It's pretty obvious the talent slippage on defense. Not just youth either...a lack of speed and playmakers. If Fournette bolts the state, it's curtains for this program. From a perception standpoint it would be a death blow to recruiting going forward.


LSU needs to learn to recruit within the new rules. After Cam Newton, the rules changed.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
3060 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

If Fournette bolts the state, it's curtains for this program. From a perception standpoint it would be a death blow to recruiting going forward.

If Fournette leaves it will be the beginning of the end for Miles
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56301 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:51 pm to
no it won't. Stop being a drama queen
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

If Fournette leaves it will be the beginning of the end for Miles




I agree
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60314 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:21 am to
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no it won't. Stop being a drama queen



Agreed

That was 1/9
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76674 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 12:36 am to
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If Fournette leaves it will be THE end for Miles
Posted by jrevonte
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
1801 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 4:26 am to
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Anthony "A-Train" Thomas


i thought he played for Michigan?
Posted by Bush Hog
Lafourche
Member since Aug 2012
248 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:19 am to
he did
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60314 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:20 am to
Larry Wright, West Monroe, was the other TB that went to Notre Dame. It did't work out and he transferred to Tech.
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