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re: Our linebacker play.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:33 pm to The312
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:33 pm to The312
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The key question is why our linebackers are struggling so mightily? Is it a lack of experience, a lack of proper coaching, or do we simply have a talent deficiency?
they suck...it's just that simple. There a bunch of shoestring tacklers. If you want to watch how real linebackers make play's then check florida state out.
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:36 pm to dnm3305
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"Line"backers scrape and fill the remaning holes.
Yes, you are correct and they are not doing that!!!
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:56 pm to Penrod
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These posters who think Welter is terrible are morons.
First Welter has the unenviable position of replacing Minter, that in itself is virtually impossible as Minter is one of the best Linebackers to come out of LSU in the past decade. Minter was not only physically very strong as hell and at the point of attack but he was very instinctive and a great football IQ and that is what separates the men from the boys.
So unfortunately Welter has to follow in those footsteps, but his play has been extremely under performing and the stats and video are proof. If you go back and watch the replay of games and look at the running plays that he is not involved in he is taking horrible angles to the ball and even though he did improve in the Auburn game it still wasn't great by any means. It looks like from the replays he just doesn't have the "instinctive" edge to the game that good MLB's have and you can see that in the missed plays or plays on the carrier that he is out of position on.
In the last 4 games our opponents are averaging 4.4yds, 3.7yds, 1.8yds & 4.1yds per carry against TCU, UAB, Kent St & Auburn respectively that is a problem. 1.8yds is awesome but that was against Kent St. when you have TCU gashing you for 4.4yds per carry and the Auburn running backs gashing you for 5.3yds per carry. If people can't see that the front 7 is not playing up to their capabilities than they are either blind, stupid or both. And if they are playing up to their capabilities than we are going to have huge issues with, UGA, Bama, TAMU & yes even Old Piss.
My personal feeling is, if the front 7 starts playing stronger against the run and starts to keep them below a 2yd average we will not see the big pass plays we have been getting torched on.
Whether anyone wants to admit this or not, our linebacker play needs to improve drastically and it all starts from the Mike position.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:59 pm to EarthwormJim
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His pass coverage may be worse than his run support.
I think that's an impossibility.
It's damn close!!!
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:00 pm to Dudebro2
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In the last 4 games our opponents are averaging 4.4yds, 3.7yds, 1.8yds & 4.1yds per carry against TCU, UAB, Kent St & Auburn respectively that is a problem. 1.8yds is awesome but that was against Kent St. when you have TCU gashing you for 4.4yds per carry and the Auburn running backs gashing you for 5.3yds per carry. If people can't see that the front 7 is not playing up to their capabilities than they are either blind, stupid or both. And if they are playing up to their capabilities than we are going to have huge issues with, UGA, Bama, TAMU & yes even Old Piss.
My personal feeling is, if the front 7 starts playing stronger against the run and starts to keep them below a 2yd average we will not see the big pass plays we have been getting torched on.
Whether anyone wants to admit this or not, our linebacker play needs to improve drastically and it all starts from the Mike position.
Accurate post.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:15 pm to LSUJuice
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I agree. But I also haven't been on here the past couple days to see if there have already been a ton of these threads
amazing. just the fear of germans and not replying within the rules of the rantards standards.. or the worry of not giving a wonderful reply, makes someone answer like this
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:25 pm to Dudebro2
I agree 100%, I AM A big welker fan,but after watching him he is just to slow are takes really bad paths to the ball. He is always two step behind the ball I really hope he improves.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:25 pm to JacksonLSU
JacksonLSU - where in Cali do you live?
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:27 pm to Dudebro2
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First Welter has the unenviable position of replacing Minter, that in itself is virtually impossible as Minter is one of the best Linebackers to come out of LSU in the past decade.
:kige:
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:33 pm to dgnx6
quote:Well this year it is, at least up to this point. I'm concerned that our offense began to show some cracks against Auburn who doesn't have a very good defense. Mett got sacked a few times and they seemed to shut us down. I know people say we went conservative but I think they just started to figure it out and I hope that isn't just the beginning of other teams slowing us down considerably on offense.
chavis, its his unit thst is the worst on the team.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:44 pm to otowntiger
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I'm concerned that our offense began to show some cracks against Auburn who doesn't have a very good defense. Mett got sacked a few times and they seemed to shut us down. I know people say we went conservative but I think they just started to figure it out and I hope that isn't just the beginning of other teams slowing us down considerably on offense.
You are wrong, come on you don't know Miles better than that. He is not the type of coach to get up 21-0 in the first half and not go conservative, not his style. Cameron is the real deal, if we need points he will go get them.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:52 pm to fatdaddy
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f anyone else has a fullback like JC, our linebackers will be fully exposed. It's one thing to use speed to run down a sweep....it's a far different thing to blow up a hole.
Uga's fb is considered as good or better than JC.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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f anyone else has a fullback like JC, our linebackers will be fully exposed. It's one thing to use speed to run down a sweep....it's a far different thing to blow up a hole.
Uga's fb is considered as good or better than JC.
Ok with the way our front 7 has played against the run so far this year, that could be an issue!!!
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:17 pm to Dudebro2
Our linebackers are just not that talented. I can't believe people have not figured that out. Closing speed and size is not coaching.
Kwon and minter were both top 4 or higher in the nation at their position. Barrow, welter, jones, Louis, etc. just aren't going to be great lbers. Simple as that.
Beckwith will be a beast though.
Kwon and minter were both top 4 or higher in the nation at their position. Barrow, welter, jones, Louis, etc. just aren't going to be great lbers. Simple as that.
Beckwith will be a beast though.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:24 pm to dreaux
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Our linebackers are just not that talented. I can't believe people have not figured that out. Closing speed and size is not coaching.
Kwon and minter were both top 4 or higher in the nation at their position. Barrow, welter, jones, Louis, etc. just aren't going to be great lbers. Simple as that.
Beckwith will be a beast though.
Well I am not ready to throw in the towel just yet on the group. I agree Kwon has really impressed with the way he attacks the ball carrier, the surprise in the group has been Barrow. To me he had 104 tackles last year I expected more from him than where he is right now. I know Welter is giving 110% I just think he has maxed out his potential athletically and he just isn't getting the job done, nor do I have any hope that he will going forward.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:30 pm to Dudebro2
It just amazes me that we don't put one of our best players in the middle of the field. We could have rbs for days riding pine. Our best athletes in the secondary, WR, safety and Dline.
It seems that whatever is left goes to linebacker. Ware would've been one hell of a Lber, as would loston. It just seems that, that position (mike Lber), is much more important then they are putting effort into.
I would say hillard would be great at mike, but he just doesn't like contact.
It seems that whatever is left goes to linebacker. Ware would've been one hell of a Lber, as would loston. It just seems that, that position (mike Lber), is much more important then they are putting effort into.
I would say hillard would be great at mike, but he just doesn't like contact.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:41 pm to dreaux
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It just amazes me that we don't put one of our best players in the middle of the field. We could have rbs for days riding pine. Our best athletes in the secondary, WR, safety and Dline.
It seems that whatever is left goes to linebacker. Ware would've been one hell of a Lber, as would loston. It just seems that, that position (mike Lber), is much more important then they are putting effort into.
I would say hillard would be great at mike, but he just doesn't like contact.
Chief has a reputation for a reason, he knows the linebacking position just watching the drop off so far this year is concerning but I have to have confidence in what he is trying to accomplish. Maybe we don't have the talent we need but that would put more into question switching Jones to FB without seeing what he can do on the defensive side of the ball. I realize they have KB slotted for the Mike going forward as the reason to switch him, but I would have liked to see what he could do.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 4:49 pm to dreaux
Barrow underperformed against AU. Welter isn't likely to improve much as he has been in the system long enough to reach his potential.
Beckwith if the future at Mike and I hope the coaches realize that. They alluded to that but then against AU Welter got way to much playing time which leaves me scratching my head.
Last season a few of the freshman looked really good. Jones, Kwon etc. But now apparently Kwon is the only one in the group that doesn't look like he has regressed or shown his true colors with a DL that doesn't consist of 4 kick as probowlers.
Still put barrow, kwon and beckwith out there and I think our lb's will be almost as good as last years group.
Beckwith if the future at Mike and I hope the coaches realize that. They alluded to that but then against AU Welter got way to much playing time which leaves me scratching my head.
Last season a few of the freshman looked really good. Jones, Kwon etc. But now apparently Kwon is the only one in the group that doesn't look like he has regressed or shown his true colors with a DL that doesn't consist of 4 kick as probowlers.
Still put barrow, kwon and beckwith out there and I think our lb's will be almost as good as last years group.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:20 pm to omegaman66
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Still put barrow, kwon and beckwith out there
I agree I would like to see those 3 start along with D. Hunter as one of the starting DE's.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:32 pm to Dudebro2
Since is appears LSU doesn't have as much "quality" linebacker depth as we once thought, should we be recruiting more linebackers this year? Landing Garrett and Young would be a great start but maybe an additional 2 or 3 guys should be looked at.
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