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Sig 226 vs. HK USP series
Posted on 9/14/13 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/14/13 at 9:42 am
I'm considering picking up a P226, not sure which edition yet, or an HK USP 45, again not sure which specific edition. I'm going to fire both, but was wondering if anyone here had any thoughts.
I've looked up reviews and forum threads from other sites and, quite annoyingly, have found posts saying to get either an older Sig or a new HK as well as posts saying to get either an older HK or a new Sig.
I could get the P226 in .357 or .40, but would probably get it in 9mm unless anyone has objections to that, so the caliber difference isn't really a factor.
I've looked up reviews and forum threads from other sites and, quite annoyingly, have found posts saying to get either an older Sig or a new HK as well as posts saying to get either an older HK or a new Sig.
I could get the P226 in .357 or .40, but would probably get it in 9mm unless anyone has objections to that, so the caliber difference isn't really a factor.
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Posted on 9/14/13 at 9:45 am to Tom288
Out of those I pick the sig. HK's triggers are notoriously horrible.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 9:49 am to KingRanch
I've also heard HK's are more durable and reliable, but the SIGs are more accurate.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 9:50 am to Tom288
I have a souple sigs, I like them, not sure what it is about them, I just like em.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:00 am to Tom288
I bought a P226 in 9mm last year and I love it! It's very accurate and extremely smooth shooting. I've never had a problem with it.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:08 am to Tom288
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I've also heard HK's are more durable and reliable,
"more durable and reliable" is only relevant if you plan to take the handgun to Afghanistan. There are very few of the high value handguns on the market (Beretta, Sig, S&W M&P, Glock, etc.) that aren't considered some of the most reliable and durable handguns on the market.
If you plan to fill it up with sand and drop it from a helicopter, research very thoroughly. If you want a reliable handgun that will serve you well for general-purpose use, choose the one that fits you better. Simple as that.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:16 am to bapple
Yeah I'm aware. And those posts always include a caveat pertaining to the intended role of the handgun; i.e. is it for competition, home defense, carry, the range, etc.
The thing is, I don't have a specific role in mind as it won't be the primary home/self-defense piece I use and I don't shoot competitively.
So I only mention them because I'm looking for differences, minute as they may be, between two weapons that are both pretty damn good.
The thing is, I don't have a specific role in mind as it won't be the primary home/self-defense piece I use and I don't shoot competitively.
So I only mention them because I'm looking for differences, minute as they may be, between two weapons that are both pretty damn good.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:18 am to Tom288
Sig unless you plan to change the backstrap, trigger, and grips on the HK.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:20 am to DrTyger
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backstrap
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:23 am to Tom288
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I've also heard HK's are more durable and reliable,
If I'm not mistaken the P226 is one of the standard issue weapons for the SEALs. If it's good enough for them it's good enough for me. To be fair, they also use the USP in .45.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:23 am to Tom288
HK USP 45 triggers are amazing.
The USP series also has tons of upgrades including match trigger sets. The USP also does not have the changeable backstraps like the HK45 series.
That being said, I sold my USP45 to a good friend and bought a HK45c and soon the HK45 because I like the feel of the gun more.
The USP series also has tons of upgrades including match trigger sets. The USP also does not have the changeable backstraps like the HK45 series.
That being said, I sold my USP45 to a good friend and bought a HK45c and soon the HK45 because I like the feel of the gun more.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:24 am to Helo
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HK USP 45 triggers are amazing.
In relation to an airsoft pistol?
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:26 am to KingRanch
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KingRanch
Whats the deal with em that you dont like?
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:33 am to brass2mouth
I have a P30, my dad has a USP.
The triggers are identical and equally shitty. For a $1100 pistol their triggers are embarrassing.
The triggers are identical and equally shitty. For a $1100 pistol their triggers are embarrassing.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:34 am to Tom288
In my limited experience, sig has excellent customer service. That's why I went with the P938 for my pistol.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:37 am to Tom288
Also consider the Sig has a metal frame as opposed to polymer. If it is going to be a recreational pistol, the added weight may not be a bad thing.
I've found my Beretta 90 two to be a great training pistol for newbies since it is so heavy and shoots the small 9mm cartridge.
Just something to consider....
I've found my Beretta 90 two to be a great training pistol for newbies since it is so heavy and shoots the small 9mm cartridge.
Just something to consider....
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:39 am to bapple
Yeah, I grew up on a 92 FS. Generally speaking I'm not a huge fan of polymer frames so that is something to consider, but as long as it's not too light it's not a huge deal.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 10:39 am to KingRanch
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The triggers are identical and equally shitty
The triggers are totally different.
The USP is far better in every way.
Admittedly the p30 DA trigger is pretty crappy but it can be improved by spring changes or completely changed to a LEM trigger.
Posted on 9/14/13 at 11:01 am to Tom288
Both are obviously quality guns.... My main gripe about Sig is the finish. They seem to rust up just looking at them. I have a 226 and a 220. The 220 was carried as my side arm for about 5 years.
HK has a bunch of different trigger variants.... I know a lot of people love the LEM set up
HK has a bunch of different trigger variants.... I know a lot of people love the LEM set up
This post was edited on 9/14/13 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/14/13 at 11:19 am to Tom288
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Yeah, I grew up on a 92 FS. Generally speaking I'm not a huge fan of polymer frames so that is something to consider, but as long as it's not too light it's not a huge deal.
There is something different about holding a complete hunk of metal. I wouldn't want to carry concealed something that heavy but I certainly love taking it out for a range day.
Then again, polymer has some great upsides too. I obviously like both types and see the ups and downs of either. I guess it comes down to personal preference. Both seem like they would suit you very well.
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