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Interesting Conversation With A Friend In England



Had an interesting conversation yesterday with a friend that was born, lives and works in London. This friend is, I suppose, somewhat conservative for a Londoner, but would be considered a liberal in the US by pretty much any standard. Good guy, smart, keeps abreast of world politics, etc.

Anyway, he was excited about the prospects of an Obama presidency in 2008 and felt that W had eroded a lot of respect that the US carried on the world stage. Being a Brit, he probably actually like this erosion of respect, though he would not admit it.

That said, he does acknowledge that when the US is strong, or viewed as strong, the world seems to run a little smoother. He thought Obama could right some wrongs.

Fast forward to yesterday...when I ask his opinion of Obama in view of recent Syrian/Russian events, he said five words, "he is a historic failure". "He" is obviously Obama.

When I ask if that is the general sentiment over there right now, he said without a doubt. He said that most over there (he travels to France often as well), view Obama as simply shallow and a person without a plan...basically a caricature of what he revealed himself to be on the campaign trail.

He did say, however, that most did not think Romney would be much better overall, but acknowledged he would have handled this better. Surprisingly, he did remember Romney saying that Russia was our biggest threat and thought that was interesting in view of the criticism he received for saying that with respect to what is going on less than a year later.

He also said that he feels embarrassed for the US that our nation has been humiliated by Russia, of all nations, on the international stage due to the ineptness of our leadership.

Anyway, I thought it was an interesting perspective from a person across the pond that quite literally has no dog in the hunt relative to American politics.







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ljhog
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humiliated by Russia

We humiliated ourselves by electing Obama twice.






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Tom288
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That opinion is prevalent throughout Europe, particularly in Germany, and the Middle East...actually it's pretty common throughout the world.

If you want to see people really pissed off just look at the Egyptians.








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He did say, however, that most did not think Romney would be much better overall, but acknowledged he would have handled this better.



AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.

Your post, like most of your others, is a crock.






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embarrassed for the US that our nation has been humiliated by Russia, of all nations
As someone who grew up in the Cold War era. . .I am also embarrassed for the US for this same reason.






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He thought Obama could right some wrongs.
Stopped right there.






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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.

Your post, like most of your others, is a crock.


Where did the OP mention Mitt? You're obfuscating.






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Many here knew this in 2008 of course.

It just goes to show that you can't keep the truth buried forever.






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goatmilker
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The results of the last two elections have not proven the wisdom of the American voters rex





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Lsut81
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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.


Yeah, I mean a background of running businesses and being in charge of a state def doesn't make someone better equipped to be a leader than someone who has never done those things...







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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.


Yet it still stands that during the debates Romney identified Russia as a very real threat while Obama brushed it off. How is that working out for us right now? Would you say our relations with Russia are better or worse since use of the "Reset" button?







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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.

Your post, like most of your others, is a crock.


Speaking of embarrassments.








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The whole world is laughing at the empty suit Obama...

and the domestic media STILL tries to paint him as a great leader.

It has become comical the depths of propaganda. It is equally sad that people like rex fall so easily to such base level propaganda.






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Not only was the "Re-Set" button word in Russian, WRONG, but check out the finger the Russian used to press it.





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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.

i love how thats all you took from that post.
just admit it, obama sucks. no need to hide or qualify it.






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Rex
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How is that working out for us right now?

Well, I'd say. How were we harmed by posturing Russia into pressuring one of its allies to give up its weapons?
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Would you say our relations with Russia are better or worse since use of the "Reset" button?

Better under Obama, obviously.







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Anyway, he was excited about the prospects of an Obama presidency in 2008 and felt that W had eroded a lot of respect that the US carried on the world stage. Being a Brit, he probably actually like this erosion of respect, though he would not admit. . . . . .

Fast forward to yesterday...when I ask his opinion of Obama in view of recent Syrian/Russian events, he said five words, "he is a historic failure". "He" is obviously Obama.

When I ask if that is the general sentiment over there right now, he said without a doubt. He said that most over there (he travels to France often as well), view Obama as simply shallow and a person without a plan...basically a caricature of what he revealed himself to be on the campaign trail.

This is pretty much how I feel about Obama.






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AS IF an Englishman is sufficiently familiar with Mitt Romney to "acknowledge" that he would have handled something better.


true, only you know everything about everything






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How were we harmed by posturing Russia into pressuring one of its allies to give up its weapons?


wow, you really believe this spin?

this is so sad it's pathetic.






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DeltaDoc
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Rex, believe it or not, non-US citizens often follow US politics closely. I would venture to say my friend has a much more realistic view of US politics than you do.







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