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Hill decision stirs up debate, Armchair judges replay Jackson’s call

Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:28 pm
Finally a balanced, reasonable article about Hill...It is the advocate, but hey...
LINK

Required reading for the likes of Gregg Doyel, Guilbeau, Gary Patterson, ESPN, and the rest of the chattering class that wants to pillory Jeremy Hill (and by extension our Louisiana legal system, along with Les Miles).

From Judge Jackson:
quote:

“I resent the implication that has been created by the media that this case has been handled any differently from any other case,” Jackson said in a telephone interview Friday, responding to questions about Monday’s hearing. “The only thing that has been different about this case is the amount of media attention that it’s been given.”


And DA Moore about the revocation hearing:
quote:

That decision, District Attorney Hillar Moore III said, fulfilled a promise prosecutors made to the mother of the 14-year-old victim in Hill’s first criminal case.


Anyway, flame way Rant.
SIAP. But not really. Don't care.
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19068 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:44 pm to
Read this today and I agree with Judge Jackson and not because JH33 is a LSU football player. When you look at the person and what they have to lose or gain determines the decisions made by the court. JH33 has incurred scrapes with the law but it is in the best interest of the taxpayers to evaluate the likelihood that the defendant will straighten up or plunge deeper into bad behavior patterns.
JH33 is on the cusp of falling to the negative side and jail time would likely push that to a certainty. This chance/break will likely be his last if he does not take advantage of it but if successful could put him back in society's positive side.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:47 pm to
Jackson endorses this!

And would probably say the same thing at each revocation hearing at which she presides.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

JH33 has incurred scrapes with the law but it is in the best interest of the taxpayers to evaluate the likelihood that the defendant will straighten up or plunge deeper into bad behavior patterns. JH33 is on the cusp of falling to the negative side and jail time would likely push that to a certainty. This chance/break will likely be his last if he does not take advantage of it but if successful could put him back in society's positive side.


This is exactly the point I was trying to make to a friend of mine.

He's not an LSU fan though, so of course he wasn't having any of it.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 1:30 pm to
The comments at the bottom are lolz
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28639 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

You can’t get away with doing that, particularly when you’re living in a glass house already,” Moore said. “That’s why we felt that jail — or some type of punishment, whether home incarceration or detention — would have sent a better message to the community.”


Oh yea because you're doing such a great job cleaning the streets of Baton Rouge up Mr. Moore
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 2:23 pm to
"Hillar Moore, you're arse racist, and its easy to see"

-Lil' Boosie
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 3:26 pm to
I don't know which is worse.

Hill taking an offered B/J while in high school from a high school girl in 2010 and then hitting a guy with his fist in 2013 or the holier than thou reaction from some calling for him to go to prison or suffer some terrible like punishment.

No judge with any common sense was going to revoke him and no coach was going to kick him off the team or suspend him three or four games.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 4:04 pm to
Why is the judge commenting on the trial? This is unethical on her behalf, no?
This post was edited on 8/11/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Why is the judge commenting on the trial?


There was no trial.

There was a hearing and she can explain her ruling if she wants.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70335 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 4:37 pm to
Hillar Moore's comments bother me. And the mother of the 14 year old should be more worried about why her daughter is offering to blow every guy she meets instead of continuing to try to crucify Hill.
Posted by CarterWilson717
If I told you, you would be dead
Member since Jun 2013
1518 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Hillar Moore's comments bother me. And the mother of the 14 year old should be more worried about why her daughter is offering to blow every guy she meets instead of continuing to try to crucify Hill.


This
Posted by ThreauxDown11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1655 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 10:48 pm to
Yup a few people closer to the situation than me said that girl was frickin everybody at redemptorist. She's a little HO and Jeremy wa dumb enough to get caught wit her
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 8/11/13 at 11:32 pm to
The role of the courts and the university is to make individuals a better and productive member of the society. Ask those who wanted to sent Hills to jail or kick him out of the team if he would have become a better member of the society by doing that. You have to see the potentials in him vs the further harm. To me Hill sounds more intelligent than a lot of football players I have seen and the judge and coaches see that.
Posted by tigermania9
Member since Aug 2013
42 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 12:19 am to
A lot of us aren't saying throw him in jail or kick him off the team. We are just saying teach him there are consequences to his actions, and the best way to do that is suspend him a few games. I am sorry but extra running isn't enough.. It's embarrassing to our program that TCU's head coach is essentially right in what he said. There has to be a few on here that care about integrity over W & L's..
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 12:36 am to
quote:

We are just saying teach him there are consequences to his actions


He was arrested, charged, suspended from the team, taken to court, made to pay medical bills, made to pay court cost, make to perform community service, not allow to associate with LSU football for months, lost his starters role, and placed on probation.

I think he is well aware of the consequences to his actions.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 12:49 am
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 12:53 am to
quote:

TCU's head coach is essentially right in what he said. There has to be a few on here that care about integrity over W & L's..

Hill will not play in the LSU/TCU game but TCU coach had no business making that comment, totally classless and hopefully he will fire up the team to teach him a lesson.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 3:31 am to
A thug is a thug is a thug. You can't change a Tigers stripes (so to speak). He's a great football player but a menace to society. Sucker punching a helpless individual like that is uncalled for and criminal. He could have killed the guy. My respect for him and Miles both went down the drain with that video. I'm just calling it like I see it. I hope Hill gets his act together but I doubt it very seriously. Miles is only keeping him on the team because he's a great football player. He's not molding this young man to be a success in real life at all. A bunch of hot air and b.s. ..... It's all about the "W's." Who are we kidding. I still love my Tigers but Miles legacy as a role model and helping kids become better people while at LSU on football scholarship is a joke. Saban would have kicked his arse off the team right then and there -but that's another heated topic as well. It's late and I'm tired of all the crap that goes on in the LSU football program from a negative standpoint. And while I'm on a negative role what does that say about the character of this football team when they allow Hill (by vote) to continue to be on the team? If he were my teammate he would have been voted off the team. What a loser.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 5:23 am to
He let a freshman ho give him a blowjob while in high school and threw a punch at a guy in a bar fight. That makes him a thug?
Posted by SuperD AP
Member since Feb 2008
1174 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 6:35 am to
quote:

menace to society

not close
quote:

I'm just calling it like I see it

Its your opinion, and could be respected but...
quote:

Saban would have kicked his arse off the team right then and there

BULL shite!!!
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