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Snowden's info in hands of Russia and China?



That is what US officials are claiming...

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Intelligence agencies in China and Russia gained access to highly classified U.S. intelligence and military information contained on electronic media held by renegade former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden, according to U.S. officials.

The exact compromise of the secret data held on Snowden’s laptop computers remains unknown but is the subject of an ongoing damage assessment within NSA and other intelligence agencies, said officials familiar with the case.



But then, its just "likely"


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Snowden remained in Moscow on Tuesday and U.S. officials said it is “highly likely” that several laptop computer carried by Snowden were “imaged” by Russian intelligence, which would have access to everything carried by the former NSA contractor.


So do they have it or don't they???

NOBODY knows, and that is the point that I have been arguing for a week now. There is no concrete eveidence.

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oklahogjr
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You mean the US is trying to make him look like a bad guy? say it ain't so.





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Lsupimp
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oklahogjr, Is it possible he is a bad guy ?





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Tchefuncte Tiger
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You mean the US is trying to make him look like a bad guy? say it ain't so.


He is a bad guy.






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oklahogjr
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oklahogjr, Is it possible he is a bad guy ?


it is possible. I'm just not going to trust our government to not lie about it.






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oklahogjr
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He is a bad guy.

not from what i've seen so far.






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TigerBait1127
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I highly doubt they would be able to access this info





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ShortyRob
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oklahogjr, Is it possible he is a bad guy ?

Define "bad guy". Does anyone really believe he was working for either China or Russia BEFORE he spilled the beans and ran? That wouldn't make much sense.






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Oenophile Brah
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NOBODY knows, and that is the point that I have been arguing for a week now. There is no concrete eveidence.

This is also part of the problem. This man appears to be hiding out amongst our enemies. He may or may not have sensitive data and may be willing to or has already transfered that data. Plus, this is all playing out in the public.

This is a very dangerous situation for the US.






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oklahogjr
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amongst our enemies

you mean one of our biggest trading partners and Russia who we aren't enemies with anymore.






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Lsupimp
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it is possible. I'm just not going to trust our government to not lie about it.


That's prudent. Neither do I. But that is a completely separate issue from whether National security secrets, including specific names of foreign operatives, are now in enemy hands.

That can't be swatted away because we don't trust our government.






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oklahogjr
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specific names of foreign operatives

we need to pull them out now then.


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That can't be swatted away because we don't trust our government.


If he starts releasing stuff that will get people killed and does actually compromise our national security he's a bad guy. However i've only seen people wildly accusing him of selling secrets to every country he's landed in.






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Tchefuncte Tiger
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you mean one of our biggest trading partners and Russia who we aren't enemies with anymore.



Keep telling yourself this and it may come true.






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ShortyRob
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That can't be swatted away because we don't trust our government.

I would say that if it so happens that more secrets are in the enemy's hands, then OUR govt is to blame.

If your hiring pool is American citizens, then you should probably be aware that they all grew up at least a little bit idealized to the idea that our govt shouldn't spy on our own fricking people.

If, after hiring these people, you immerse them into doing just that, then you're pretty much playing Russian roulette with which one will finally say to himself, "this is bull shite and aint what I thought we stand for".

There will be more Snowden's because our govt cannot constrain itself and yet, it's still forced to hire from a pool of people that think it should.






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oklahogjr
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Keep telling yourself this and it may come true.


so why is russia currently our enemy?






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papasmurf1269
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He is a bad guy.
If he gave any info to foreign governments I will agree.But just because he outed the NSA spying on Americans,I will have to disagree.






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Homesick Tiger
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you mean one of our biggest trading partners and Russia who we aren't enemies with anymore.


Grow the frick up man. If you really believe your statement then you have lost all credibility with your opinions, imo. Enemies are no longer defined by military power alone.






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oklahogjr
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Enemies are no longer defined by military power alone.

so who all are our enemies? Just everyone that doesn't do as we say?






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Lsupimp
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So we need to shut down our entire foreign intelligence apparatus ?

I haven't seen people "wildly questioning".
I've heard people asking sensible questions.
I'll remind you this is not a policy issue, but an unfolding security issue where the public has VERY limited knowledge of what is actually happening.

Your IDEOLOGY is way out front of the facts here. You have a clear NARRATIVE that you are DEFENDING rather than letting this unfold. Just as much as anybody who has already convicted him. Whatever happened to waiting for the facts and then drawing a conclusion when things are hopelessly above our pay grade and ability to understand? You are providing a very limited set of answers to complex questions in an ideological way about something you literally do not have factual knowledge of.

You jumped the shark bro.






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Enemies are no longer defined by military power alone.


This should be good...






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