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re: Per his agent, Dario Saric withdrawing from NBA Draft
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:21 am to GeauxHornets
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:21 am to GeauxHornets
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This withdrawing rumor which started yesterday and appears more like truth this morning caught all of us by surprise
The rumor started in May that Saric may withdraw from the draft.
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:22 am to Fun Bunch
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You could be right, but this statement is certainly more definitive. I think he's pulling out (TWSS).
And here I was, totally coming to peace with the pick and getting pretty excited for it.
This post shows why Fun Bunch is one of my favorite PT posters.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:24 am to GynoSandberg
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The rumor started in May that Saric may withdraw from the draft.
One started then, another started yesterday.
He believes one more than the other for the exact reasons people aren't buying McNamara: who says what when and for which reasons.
No issue there.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:26 am to TigerinATL
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Lie to Chad Ford maybe he doesn't print your lie next time, lie to some Pelicans blogger and so what if he never takes you seriously again?
In this day of twitter and blogs, you really can't take that stance anymore. Breaking news comes from small "news sources" now and then gets picked up by people like the AP, etc.
However, the agent is in Croatia. Maybe he doesn't realize that or doens't know what twitter is.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:28 am to GynoSandberg
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The rumor started in May that Saric may withdraw from the draft.
If that rumor was in any way credible, I don't think McNamara would have spent so much time on his analysis of Saric. Do you?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:30 am to Suntiger
Or McNamara is the first media type to contact him after the decision was made. Who knows?
It sounds definitive to me. I won't think about him anymore until the 17th.
It sounds definitive to me. I won't think about him anymore until the 17th.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:31 am to 42
Saric himself told Chad Ford in May, mon.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:32 am to GynoSandberg
FWIW rotoworld picked up on McNamara's article.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:34 am to Suntiger
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In this day of twitter and blogs, you really can't take that stance anymore. Breaking news comes from small "news sources" now and then gets picked up by people like the AP, etc. However, the agent is in Croatia. Maybe he doesn't realize that or doens't know what twitter is.
This is simplistic.
I could just write a script to tweet out that each player will be traded today, one tweet per player. I'll be right eventually, but there is no real information there.
Credibility does matter. What some consider to convey credibility is odd to me, but it does matter.
When the Pelicans stuff was being put out well before Yahoo issued a strangely familiar post on the subject, commenters were saying their sources at Adidas told them for sure that it would not be Pelicans and had these cloak and dagger stories as to why they knew but couldn't say more. These were believed more than a post with a ton of evidence (that maintained skepticism, mind you), for some reason.
I can't tell you why.
While the basic point has merit, I think a conspiracy to raise Saric's draft stock having McNamara as its lynch pin is insane.
The agent just not managing the message because there is nothing to be gained (since he'd be withdrawing) makes the most sense to me in light of the financial considerations.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:34 am to GynoSandberg
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Saric himself told Chad Ford in May, mon.
Yes. Isn't half the doubt in this article about gamesmanship?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:47 am to GynoSandberg
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Saric himself told Chad Ford in May, mon.
His quote to Ford back in early May:
"When this will happen, and if it will ever happen it does not depend on me," Saric continued. "We are going to offer, but if interest will not be like we expect and wish, we will definitely be withdraw before the draft."
Hard to believe that being a mid-to-late lottery pick would "not be like they expect and wish." Therefore, that rumor appeared to be largely dismissed until Ford presented new data yesterday.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:49 am to 42
Yes. I just didnt know if it got any more credible than Saric telling Chad Ford in May. I wasn't sure if something had changed between then and now. Ya know?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:51 am to GynoSandberg
C'mon.
This is a guy saying he's keeping his options open.
This is not a guy saying I'm going to do X.
This is a guy saying he's keeping his options open.
This is not a guy saying I'm going to do X.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:54 am to GynoSandberg
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Yes. I just didnt know if it got any more credible than Saric telling Chad Ford in May. I wasn't sure if something had changed between then and now. Ya know?
You don't see the massive difference between "if the interest is not there we will withdraw" and "the decision has been made to withdraw"?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:06 am to Fun Bunch
I figured one was player speak and one was agent speak but both probably mean the same thing
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:23 am to 42
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Yesterday, McNamara makes stuff up is the party line.
I've defended him as believing he has a source on many occasions. McNamara's problem is his delivery. If he hadn't been so hardcore skeptical it'd be easier to follow him when he does a 180.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:37 am to 42
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You mean spirit, get it straight.
It's really petty pointing out a correct, early story while ignoring the correct later ones, like the one about Pelicans.
Lol it wasn't a correct story. It was 2 registered names and pure speculation that they were purchased by Benson as the 2 front running names for the Hornets.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 12:39 pm to ShoeBang
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At least now we don't have to worry about the Pels taking him.
Yeah that would be terrible?
Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:00 pm to Lester Earl
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Lol it wasn't a correct story. It was 2 registered names and pure speculation that they were purchased by Benson as the 2 front running names for the Hornets.
Stomp your feet and gnash your teeth all you want, you have zero information to support this tired position.
And still no acknowledgement of the bona fide good work.
Petty.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:03 pm to TigerinATL
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I've defended him as believing he has a source on many occasions. McNamara's problem is his delivery. If he hadn't been so hardcore skeptical it'd be easier to follow him when he does a 180.
Maybe is delivery is off.
That wasn't the big issue yesterday. The perceived arrogance has been a running theme here and in other places.
I like the guy, but we clearly have different styles. I have a ton of respect for him. I'm not sure he's earned it from others who know him only casually, and I'm not here to change that. I'd say just try to take the good and bad and make a judgment rather than just focus on the bad.
Just like everything else.
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