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Crime and Punishment: why should you have a record?



like that line in the Green Mile: "he paid what he owed, he's square with the house"

why should someone have a rap sheet or record?

commit crime, get caught, do time/pay fine(whatever punishment)...then you are square with the house, back to zero.

every time you get a parking ticket, should the fine increase? Why shouldn't punishment just be for the crime committed?


just checking(in criminal proceedings) a person's record can't be brought up at trial.....but record is looked at during punishment phase correct?







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SlowFlowPro
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i do have an issue with laws like habitual offender laws or felon in possession of a firearm laws

if you serve your time, you should be square

hell, this push to continuously bring up prior felonies pretty much puts these people in an economic situation that will lead to recidivism. it's just insane when you think about it

a single felony can ruin your life, even if it's not a particularly "Bad" felony and you've made full restitution






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TigerintheNO
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why should someone have a rap sheet or record?


repeat offenders

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a person's record can't be brought up at trial.....


it can if the defense opens that door, that's why we have the 5th amendment






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Joshjrn
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True, but "opening the door" is as simple as putting the person on the stand. Louisiana's any crime, any time rule basically bars those with a criminal history from taking the stand in their own defense, no matter how good of a witness they would be.





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Zach
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why should someone have a rap sheet or record?

Recidivism rates vary widely with crime. Sex offenders are very high. Drug addicts who burglarize homes are very high. Murderers are very low. If they let Arias out today I'd bet 100 bucks she never stabs another boy friend to death.






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Porky
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If they let Arias out today I'd bet 100 bucks she never stabs another boy friend to death.

I agree because who would be stupid enough to put themselves in the position to be her boyfriend? But I agree that even if they were that stupid, she probably wouldn't do it again.



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Zach
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I agree because who would be stupid enough to put themselves in the position to be her boyfriend? But I agree that even if they were that stupid, she probably wouldn't do it again.


A guy who is very horny and wants to live on the edge.







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shutterspeed
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commit crime, get caught, do time/pay fine(whatever punishment)...then you are square with the house, back to zero.


How many people are actually made to "pay" their full penalty, though?






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Porky
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A guy who is very horny and wants to live on the edge.







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LSUwag
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why should someone have a rap sheet or record?

commit crime, get caught, do time/pay fine(whatever punishment)...then you are square with the house, back to zero.


Because criminal histories are an excellent predictor of future criminal behavior. You can look at a criminal's history and read it like a crystal ball as to what they will most likely do in the future.

Federal Sentencing Guidelines are built on this concept. They increase exponentially with an offender's criminal history. It is broken down into six categories. I being none VI being a career criminal. The penalties are radically different for an offender based on their prior record. The guidelines do cut you a break that if you have gone 10 consecutive years with no crimes then it starts back at level I .

Most states use a similar model.






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