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Bill Simmons Article on Dwight Howard

Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18772 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:10 pm
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Reality No. 5: The odds are SIGNIFICANTLY high that Dwight will keep declining

In just two seasons, Dwight's per-game averages dropped from 22.9 points and 14.1 rebounds (2011) to 17.1 and 12.4 (2013), and his PER free-fell from 26.1 (2011) to 19.2 (2013). I looked up the year-by-year PER of every memorable "big" from Kareem on to see if any of them suffered a 25 percent PER drop-off within a two-year span during the first 12 years of their career.

Our results: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (not even close), Shaquille O'Neal (no), David Robinson (yes), Hakeem Olajuwon (no), Tim Duncan (no), Moses Malone (close in Year 10, but no), Kevin Garnett (no), Yao Ming (no), Artis Gilmore (no), Patrick Ewing (no), Bob Lanier (no), Kevin McHale (no), Alonzo Mourning (yes), Chris Webber (yes), Jermaine O'Neal (yes), Charles Barkley (no) and Karl Malone (no).


I am not a Simmons fan but this article was really good.

LINK
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

The odds are SIGNIFICANTLY high that Dwight will keep declining
I hope so. frick Dwight howard
Posted by droman225
HTown by way of BR
Member since Aug 2011
13383 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:12 pm to
I'm assuming he discusses the possibility of him going to Boston?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112331 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Dwight is like Daniel in the Karote Kid.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I'm assuming he discusses the possibility of him going to Boston?

No.

But he does say Howard to Houston makes the most sense.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

But he does say Howard to Houston makes the most sense.
I would be extremely distraught if this happened
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52795 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

And he rarely out-hustles other bigs down the floor for layups or dunks anymore, something Tim Duncan gleefully exposed during the humiliating Spurs beatdown. Should Duncan (37, nearly 1,382 career games) repeatedly beat Howard (27, 758 career games) down the floor in a playoff game? You tell me.



This was telling.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

And he rarely out-hustles other bigs down the floor for layups or dunks anymore, something Tim Duncan gleefully exposed during the humiliating Spurs beatdown. Should Duncan (37, nearly 1,382 career games) repeatedly beat Howard (27, 758 career games) down the floor in a playoff game? You tell me.


Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66843 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:35 pm to
lol.

i don't care if LA keeps DH one way or the other, at this point I'm not sure it's worth it.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:36 pm to
He does take his time going down the court sometimes
Posted by shuke33
Under The Bridge
Member since Nov 2010
9052 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:42 pm to
Bill Simmons Article on Dwight Howard =

Corporate Bill Simmons bending over to ESPN.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40971 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:48 pm to
So if Dwight rebounds the next few years and puts up monster numbers:

1.) Will Simmons talk about what a great player he is and he knew all along he was one of the GOAT centers?

2.) Will we disregard this article by saying things such as "Simmons is a great writer but not a great analysist. Let's focus on how well that article flows literature-wise, and not focus on silly things such as the actual subject being discussed."?

This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 4:50 pm
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75446 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

frick Dwight howard
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110879 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:20 pm to
Meh, how many of them were coming off of major back surgery AND played with a ball dominant guy like Kobe?

Eta: to be fair, I didn't read the article, just the quot in the op.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 5:21 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:06 pm to
If Simmons is wrong then he's wrong, just like every sports media personality/fan is half the time. He owns up to his mistakes at least. He always talks about how stupid he was to say emeka was better than Howard in the 04 draft, but he also was on the durant over oden bandwagon in 2007.

Agreed that who really knows with the back surgery, but playing with Kobe shouldn't have affected his rebounding. In fact he should've redoubled his efforts in that phase of the game and increased his numbers. I think it's pretty accurate to say he should be paid like a top 25 player, not a top 5 player which is basically the point of the article
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:08 pm to
Well, he did nail that "Harden trade sucks for OKC" article.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

I am not a Simmons fan but this article was really good.



It was actually a stupid article.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

I looked up the year-by-year PER of every memorable "big" from Kareem on to see if any of them suffered a 25 percent PER drop-off within a two-year span during the first 12 years of their career.


DH is a douche but he was obviously hurt this year. If you think his injury can be recovered from then you should think he's going to be back... if you don't think he'll recover you should predict he will decline in the future. That's the issue. Dressing it up with the aura of analysis doesn't make sense if you aren't addressing the primary issue.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18772 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:15 pm to
Shouldn't you be lying about beating up Patrick Wilis or something?
Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:30 pm to
I would love to see the all-knowing, all-mighty, Bill Simmons become GM of any team. What a joke that would become, 4 years of his "But his PER is amazing". The team would be an absolute joke.
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