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Corey Raymond >> Ron Cooper- As recruiters
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:28 pm
I think it's safe to now say that coach Raymond is head and shoulders better at recruiting than Cooper was. Don't get me wrong Cooper was great at evaluating talent and getting his players ready, but he was also kind of lazy when it came to all that recruiting entails.
In one year Raymond has established great relationship with coaches and players from all over the country, at multiple positions. He's even done a better job at recruiting Florida than Billy Gonzales did.
In one year Raymond has established great relationship with coaches and players from all over the country, at multiple positions. He's even done a better job at recruiting Florida than Billy Gonzales did.
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:34 pm to whodidthat
i suppose so but Ron Cooper was a very good DB Coach though
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:40 pm to whodidthat
Who is Raymond assigned to recruit this year?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:46 pm to whodidthat
Cooper didnt need to be a great recruiter. He was that good of a coach.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:47 pm to whodidthat
is he really?
Going after big time guys is one thing but being able to identify talents such as mo, tm7 and mills might make you reconsider
Going after big time guys is one thing but being able to identify talents such as mo, tm7 and mills might make you reconsider
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:48 pm to whodidthat
It's a trade-off. Cooper was much better as a coach, Raymond is a better recruiter.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:42 pm to RollTigers
Being a better recruiter is about finding productive players not rankings which cooper was awesome at see tyrann jalen etc. we have yet to see a db class full of Raymond's guys take the field
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:46 pm to sunnydaze
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tm7
Frank WIlson brought tm7 to LSU
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:51 pm to jrevonte
Cooper turned players in stars...the jury is still out on Raymond. You cannot judge what Coach Raymond had done at LSU in one year, compared to Coach Cooper. Cooper is by the far the better coach. Let's see what Raymond can do with his own players as in the ones he recruited. Let's not forget the Jalen Mills is a Coach Cooper recruit.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:05 pm to TigerNSac
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Cooper turned players in stars
You mean Peterson, Claiborne, Mathieu, etc...
Those guys would have been stars regardless. Mathieu was a beast from the very beginning and with minimal coaching.
Cooper was actually bad at teaching technique. Big reason why he got fired from Tampa Bay and ended up at USF. Raymond is more about technique and he did a pretty good job last year with 3 new starters
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:19 pm to MoreOrLes
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i suppose so but Ron Cooper was a very good DB Coach though
best in the business imo.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:21 pm to whodidthat
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You mean Peterson, Claiborne, Mathieu, etc...
Those guys would have been stars regardless. Mathieu was a beast from the very beginning and with minimal coaching.
check out his work at south carolina.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 8:59 pm to RollTigers
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Posted by RollTigers
It's a trade-off. Cooper was much better as a coach, Raymond is a better recruiter.
The easy way to have the best of both worlds would have been hiring Ron Zook as the db coach. Youd have one hell of a db coach and imo one of the best recruiters in college football.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:35 pm to 1999
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His work at South Carolina
People forget this
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:51 pm to whodidthat
Anybody is better than Cooper.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:56 pm to deuce985
In college football, Coach Cooper was the best DB coach if not one of the nation's best. What he did in the pros cannot be compared to college football. You used a bad analogy there son. The best one would be what one guy said is about his work at South Carolina. He developed more players than Coach Raymond, thus far. Raymond still has ways to go, but he has potential. You cannot discount what Coach Cooper had done in college football and voted the best DB coach in the nation a few years ago during LSU SEC Championship year.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 6:20 am to whodidthat
Way better than Cooper and way way way better than Billy...
Posted on 5/11/13 at 6:25 am to TigerNSac
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In college football, Coach Cooper was the best DB coach
/thread
People forget how truly amazing of a coach Cooper was.
Posted on 5/11/13 at 6:49 am to LordoftheManor
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People forget how truly amazing of a coach Cooper was.
what people, exactly? his coaching skill is about the only thing everyone on this site agrees on.
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