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ChineseBandit58
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"solid scientific evidence" for abortion pill at 15



Just saw a clip of POTUS saying he supports complete availability for 15 year old girls buying over the counter morning after abortion pill. (yeah, it was on Fox News, but I am pretty sure the video clip was of Obama. 'course it could have been doctored and the evil FNC put the words in his mouth.)

No parental or medical oversight. Teenie walks in and buys a pack of gum and an abortion pill.

He said his decision was based on "solid scientific evidence." Where is the "science" behind this? Does this science include a study to determine that it is OK for a 15 year old, but not for a 9 year old? 10? 12?

I'd like to see the regression analysis that points to 15 years as the 'minimum' on the curve of acceptable lower age for unfettered access to abortions.

Of course, the libtards will use this as another instance of conservatives being "anti-science."



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Coot7703
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Unfortunately, science has nothing to do with it for liberals. Its a lack of morality. Any group that thinks it is moral to rip a human being out of its mothers womb, will not have a problem giving drugs to anyone of any age. No proof needed.





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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Is this the morning after pill that ends the potential pregnancy? No baby a one day old fetus.





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Stop questioning the one. He said there's solid evidence so there is. He wouldn't lie to further his agenda.





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Coot7703
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Yeah right, but a human fetus. Arenyou positive the fetus doesnt have a soul. My faith tells me it does. How about you?





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Mike da Tigah
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No parental or medical oversight. Teenie walks in and buys a pack of gum and an abortion pill.


The government obviously knows more about raising children than do the parents.


Oh, and always trust the FDA. They always have our best interests at heart rather than their own. Very noble people to be sure.



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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Your faith tells you that and that's your right. My faith doesn't and really don;t know if I believe in a soul at all (Haven't thought of it). But I know neither you no I have a right to tell a woman what to do, To quote some gun lover, don;t you believe in freedom? Neither your religion nor mine nor anybody's should make constitutional law.





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It's not a fetus at that point. The morning after pill is a high dose of a birth control pill that prevents implantation. Without implantation, the blastocyst cannot become a fetus.





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Mike da Tigah
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Your faith tells you that and that's your right.



The question in my mind is....

Who tells the parents of said 15 year old that she is sexually active?



Furthermore, how does a 15 year old without a drivers license yet attain this in those states where the driving age is 16?


Maybe said 15 year old will buy pill for their 12 year old friend without having to worry the parents of the 12 year old.





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Coot7703
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Jeauxbleaux and cc


Lets not hijack the thread with an abortion debate. You have your opinions and so do I.

Lets get back to the original post. Do you think a 15 year old should be buying this pill without their parents knowledge? And if they should, what scientific proof would you offer that any one at any age should be able to?






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Kracktastic
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quote]It's not a fetus at that point. The morning after pill is a high dose of a birth control pill that prevents implantation. Without implantation, the blastocyst cannot become a fetus.[/quote]

You do realize all youre doing is playing word games with "blastocyst" and "fetus", right? The drug kills a fertilized egg by denying it implantation- sooooo its an abortion.









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Kracktastic
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Your faith tells you that and that's your right. My faith doesn't and really don;t know if I believe in a soul at all (Haven't thought of it). But I know neither you no I have a right to tell a woman what to do, To quote some gun lover, don;t you believe in freedom? Neither your religion nor mine nor anybody's should make constitutional law.


Freedom without virtue is a cancer.






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ChineseBandit58
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Is this the morning after pill that ends the potential pregnancy? No baby a one day old fetus.

Yes - I actually support the use of the "morning after pill" - I even support abortion up to some undefined point in the development of the fetus, and I am no expert on where that point should be.

What I am totally against is one more step in insulating a child from their parents control.

A 15 year old is (usually) not competent to decide on whether or not they should be sexually active - without their parents knowledge. They could be influenced by peers or older hard-legs to go ahead and have sex with the suggestion to just go get a pill in the morning.

This stinks to high heaven - or for the atheists, it stinks to high abortion. (abortion is the new religion of most libtards.)






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Zephyrius
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But I know neither you no I have a right to tell a woman what to do, To quote some gun lover, don;t you believe in freedom? Neither your religion nor mine nor anybody's should make constitutional law.

Hey hack... there are tons of laws that tell age specific people "what to do" women and men that are "constitutional". Your constitutional argument is "crap" like most of your arguments are on this board.



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Send him a box for Malia.

She turns 15 in July.






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ChineseBandit58
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Lets get back to the original post. Do you think a 15 year old should be buying this pill without their parents knowledge? And if they should, what scientific proof would you offer that any one at any age should be able to?

True - thanks for pointing that out.

I should have made that disclaimer in my OP. I don't care to engage in an abortion debate.

This is about driving another wedge between parents and the behavior of their children.

AND - equally it is about the POTUS claiming to have made the decision on SOLID SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!!!

That's the statement that actually prompted me to start a thread about it.

It shows just how cavalier the DEMs are about claiming "solid scientific evidence" for all their idiotic agenda - and allows the mouth-breathers to claim anyone who DOESN'T agree wtih them as being "anti-science."



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TrueTiger
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Send him a box for Malia.

She turns 15 in July.


I don't think he has any worries. The only guns that get close to her belong to the Secret Service.






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Aubie Spr96
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It's not a fetus at that point. The morning after pill is a high dose of a birth control pill that prevents implantation. Without implantation, the blastocyst cannot become a fetus



This. I find it hard to believe the anti-abortion folks being against this drug. If anything, it will probably prevent abortions.






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Coot7703
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I have been thinking about jeauxbleauxs comment that no ones religion should dictate constitutional law. While i agree no denomination of religion should do this, society has to use SOME type of moral barometer to make laws. As society slips into more into immorality, laws can change. It is religion that should be that buffer. And by the way, if you say that religion should not be that buffer, just remember that no religion IS a religion. It is called atheism. Do we really want a society based on atheism? It seems to me that is exactly where we are being pushed. Sure it is ok for a 15 year old to have sex. If she wants, take a pill and not suffer the consequences. Where does that stop for atheists?





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TigerTattle
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What I am totally against is one more step in insulating a child from their parents control.
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A 15 year old is (usually) not competent to decide
From what I've read, it is recommended that these pills only be used in emergencies, no more than once or twice a year. There are side-effects, usually short-term, but frequent use can inhibit conception later in life. 15 year olds, able to buy them OTC, aren't going to worry about what could happen later on. Without oversight from a parent they'll be taking them like candy.






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