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re: What are some unpopular opinions about songs or musicians?

Posted on 5/1/13 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 7:45 pm to
my favorite venue is the white water tavern in little rock, ar

it's a really small venue, but I have seen some of my favorite bands there:

lucero
cory branan
drag the river
two cow garage
cory branan
glossary
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 7:54 pm to
a lot of dumb in this thread.

but this may be the dumbest

quote:

The Beatles didn't make good music.


dum dum
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

dum dum


Yeah, you're right. I think I'll put "hard day's night" on repeat for a few hours. Well...either that, or I'll jab myself in the eye with a fork.

One or the other.
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Yeah, you're right. I think I'll put "hard day's night" on repeat for a few hours. Well...either that, or I'll jab myself in the eye with a fork.

One or the other.



huh?
what does that even mean?
Posted by WDE85
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:00 pm to
Just curious, do you like any Beatles?
Posted by Captain Fantasy
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:00 pm to
There are even smaller venues that pull in quality acts as well Troubadour, Bowery Ballroom, Schubas, Fox Theatre to name a few.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:01 pm to
Jimi Hendrix is NOT the greatest guitarist of all time


Duane Allman was miles ahead of him
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:05 pm to
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huh?
what does that even mean?


Was it written in Spanish?
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Just curious, do you like any Beatles?


There are a handful of Beatles songs that I think are okay. For example, Hey Jude is, imho, a good but nto great song.

But I'm not kidding or trolling when I say that I don't think any of their songs are great. I really don't.

I think Imagine would be their best song if it were a Beatles song.
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

imi Hendrix is NOT the greatest guitarist of all time


Duane Allman was miles ahead of him


you're really splitting hairs here. In a world of great guitar players they are among the greats that are famous, but you could make arguments for 1000 different guitar players, most you've never even heard yet.



Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Bowery Ballroom



I just checked their website. 930 gets better acts.

I just checked Troubadour. 930 gets better acts.

I've never heard of the other two, so I'll assume it's the same deal.


ETA: don't take my word for it: LINK /


ETAA: FWIW, there are people who give out venue awards and 930 club was 2012 nightclub venue of the year. It's won the award several times. This is just for the US, I believe.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 8:25 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

you're really splitting hairs here. In a world of great guitar players they are among the greats that are famous, but you could make arguments for 1000 different guitar players, most you've never even heard yet.



Agreed but among the ones that are consistently in that "elite" group jimi is 2nd at best and Im more inclined to place him 3rd or 4th and that's an unpopular opinion
Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:43 pm to
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Agreed but among the ones that are consistently in that "elite" group jimi is 2nd at best and Im more inclined to place him 3rd or 4th and that's an unpopular opinion


Jimi was the greatest innovator of his era. He did things with the guitar that had never even been dreamed of before. Yes, you can make a case for Duane as being technically better (although it would be hard) but no one before or since has had the influence on style of play or innovation that Jimi did.

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Jimi was the greatest innovator of his era. He did things with the guitar that had never even been dreamed of before. Yes, you can make a case for Duane as being technically better (although it would be hard) but no one before or since has had the influence on style of play or innovation that Jimi did.



No one has ever played a slide like Duane before or since and then you have to look at his sheer volume of work and his flexibility among genres.

Jimi was a better rock star but Duane was easily the better musician
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:57 pm to
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my favorite venue is the white water tavern in little rock, ar




used to be strictly an old man burnout bar, unil some guys took it over on tues nites. the idea was a free, all local music night. people were just starting bands all the time once it started to get going. for two or three years it was a pretty amazing place. tues nite was always packed, everyone interested in some other friends band, lots of one-off kinds of shows. even if it was your first show, playing on tues meant you had a full bar to play to. lotta rock, punk, and noise bands. started expanding, booking better shows, lots of acts traveling through on their way to/from SXSW.

then a crew from conway bought the bar and the americana scene hit. they really spruced the place up, made it a legit venue, not just some word of mouth dive. i miss the dingy old tues nites though.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:07 pm to
Jimi was the single greatest most creative innovator of rock and roll music to ever come along IMO.

duane was a better overall musician though.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:08 pm to
matty white bought it. love that place.
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:11 pm to
yeah! theyre good dudes fer sure.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

duane was a better overall musician though.



That's all I was trying to say.

I don't believe that there is a single lick, passage or phrase that Jimi could pull off that Duane couldn't. There's a lot of shite Duane did that I think would leave Jimi scratching his head.

The difference is Duane took his influences and tried to build like most do. Jimi too his influences and idols and wanted to fricking shatter them and make people forget about them.

Jimi was a greater innovator no doubt but remember Duane also broke a few barriers himself.

He was the first person to play jazz music with a rock feel. Everyone else just tried to make rock n roll sound jazzy. I also think that if Duane lived 5-6 more years my statement wouldn't be nearly as controversial.

Just imagine how much Duane living just half a decade longer would've changed everything we know about the history of rock music....
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:26 pm to
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Just imagine how much Duane living just half a decade longer would've changed everything we know about the history of rock music...


You could say the exact same thing about Hendrix. Dude is already the GOAT. Who knows what he would have done later.
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