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EPL Race for 2nd-4th

Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:08 am
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:08 am
We pretty much knew back in January that Man United would win the league title, so let's shift our attention to the other two Champions League qualifying (and one qualifying round) spots.

Bold and italic = win, Italic = draw, underline = loss.

2. Manchester City (68), 5 games left.
Ceiling: 83 points. Floor: 68 points.
Remaining games: West Ham, @Swansea, West Brom, @Reading, Norwich.
My prediction: Not the toughest bunch of remaining opponents, and I really don't see them leaving enough points on the table to get knocked down. I see at least 13 points here, with a draw against Swansea, bringing them to 81 and a lock for 2nd place.

3. Arsenal (63), 4 games left.
Ceiling: 75 points. Floor: 63 points.
Remaining games: Man Utd, @QPR, Wigan, @Newcastle.
My prediction: Wins against QPR and Wigan, and a choke draw at Newcastle. Finish at 70 points, which will be fifth place.

4. Chelsea (62), 5 games left.
Ceiling: 77 points. Floor: 62 points.
Remaining games: Swansea, @Man Utd, Spurs, @Aston Villa, Everton.
My prediction: The hardest remaining schedule of the bunch. I think Chelsea will beat Swansea, Villa, and Everton, while taking a point from Old Trafford. The match against Spurs is key. They'll gain 10-13 points to 72-75.

5. Tottenham Hotspur (61), 5 games left.
Ceiling: 76 points. Floor: 61 points.
Remaining games: @Wigan, Southampton, @Chelsea, @Stoke City, Sunderland.
My prediction: Wins against Wigan, Southampton, and Sunderland, draw at Stoke. Again, the Chelsea match is key and anyone's call. 71-74 points.

6. Everton (56), 4 games left.
Ceiling: 68 points. Floor: 56 points.
Remaining games: Fulham, @Liverpool, West Ham, @Chelsea.
My prediction: 6 points at most, I doubt they'll win at Anfield or Stamford Bridge. Finish at 62 points, sixth place.



Chelsea vs. Spurs May 8th will be key. Calling it a draw for now, here's how I see the table finishing. (will accordingly update as matches occur)

Current Table:
2. Manchester City (3 games left) 72 points
3. Chelsea (3 games left) 68 points

4. Arsenal (2 games left) 67 points
5. Tottenham Hotspur (3 games left) 65 points
6. Everton (2 games left) 60 points

Predicted Table:

2. Manchester City 81 points
3. Chelsea 75 points

4. Arsenal 71 points
5. Tottenham Hotspur 70 points
6. Everton 62 points

Make your predictions, and I'll update it as it goes if people actually give a shite. And yes I have too much free time.

EDIT: 11AM 4/27: City beats West Ham, Spurs draw Wigan, Everton beats Fulham.
EDIT noon 4/28: Arsenal draws to ManU, Chelsea beats Swansea.
EDIT 5/5: Chelsea beats ManU, Everton draws Liverpool, Man City draws Swansea, Spurs beat Southampton, Arsenal beats QPR.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
19368 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:22 am to
We may get relegated
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:30 am to
2. Man City (W, D, W, W, W) = 81
3. Spurs (W, W, D, W, W) = 74
4. Arsenal (D, W, W, D) = 71
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5. Chelsea (W, L, D, W, D) = 70
6. Everton (W, D, W, D) = 62

Sir Alex decides to go for some revenge for the FA Cup exit to Chelsea, gets the three points at home that eventually keep the Blues out of the Champions League.
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 12:32 am
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18648 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:38 am to
quote:

Sir Alex decides to go for some revenge for the FA Cup exit to Chelsea, gets the three points at home that eventually keep the Blues out of the Champions League.


For this season, that'd be just about right. I just don't see Chelsea finishing with less points than Arsenal.

ETA: on that note, I am a huge ManU fan this weekend
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 12:44 am
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:45 am to
I mean, all they'd have to do is beat Spurs or Everton to change that in my scenarios.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18648 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:48 am to
Which is why I've literally marked my calendar for May 8th
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30844 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:50 am to
Not gonna lie, I'm pretty nervous. Would feel so much better if we hadn't thrown those two points away Sunday.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:10 am to
Definitely a dog fight, I'd say Spurs are the most likely to get in based on the schedules and then 50/50 between us and chelsea... not a fun feeling.

I'm glad Chelsea is still in Europa though for sure
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68640 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:13 am to
Chelsea plays one game every 3 days from here on out. I think they finish out the top 4 again.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30844 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:03 am to
I know I'm hoping against hope and setting myself up for rage because FSW is a complete moron as proven again on Sunday but if he plays any first choice player in either of these Europa games I will rage beyond belief. Roman has to step in and be the boss here before this clown sets this football club back significantly.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10508 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:18 am to
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8184 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:27 am to
I think Arsenal gets third and tottenham fourth, Chelsea misses out. Sir Alex is beholden to wenger for selling him van persie and decides to repay the favor by playing a B team on Sunday. Plus he sees Arsenal as a much less formidable adversary than Chelsea in the long run, due to our shitty owner. Also as much hate as wenger sometimes gets he's been here before and he knows how to just pull these things out. I have much less faith in AVB and Benitez doesn't give a frick about champions league for Chelsea next year so he'll play starters in Europa. Tottenham have a much lower goal
differential than chelsea and arsenal, I think that finally catches up to them and they draw one of their last 4 against bad to mediocre competition and lose to Chelsea.

Official points prediction for remaining games:
Arsenal: 10 out of 12
Chelsea: 8 out of 15
Tottenham: 10 out of 15
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 9:29 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12470 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Sir Alex is beholden to wenger for selling him van persie and decides to repay the favor by playing a B team on Sunday.


That'd be pretty cool. As much as it pissed me off to see City shite the bed Sunday, at least it set up ManU taking the title before playing Arsenal.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:42 am to
quote:

2. Man City (W, D, W, W, W) = 81
3. Spurs (W, W, D, W, W) = 74
4. Arsenal (D, W, W, D) = 71
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5. Chelsea (W, L, D, W, D) = 70
6. Everton (W, D, W, D) = 62

Sounds about right.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43127 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 10:05 am to
2. MC
3. ARS
4. winner of CHEL/SPURS match.


Arsenal will draw with MU and win other 3 imo.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30844 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 11:03 am to
Arsenal's chances greatly increased with the Giroud red card.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Arsenal's chances greatly increased with the Giroud red card.

I actually agree.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82031 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:09 pm to
those 2 points we left out on sunday by conceding a laste arse goal are going to do us in. This is the same feeling I had when we blew a 2-0 lead against Juventus to start the CL, I was like this is going to come back and bite us in the arse...and it did.
Going to suck not being in the CL
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30844 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:14 pm to
Not only will we not be in CL but we will be in Europa.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82031 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:17 pm to
Let's win that bitch back 2 back

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