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Methuselah  LSU Fan On da Riva Member since Jan 2005 10856 posts
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| What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 6:00 am)
if we break it down by decades, I'd have to say for me it's probably the 2000-2010 decade. The advent of original series on cable (basic and premium) seemed to set off a boom in creativeness. You had things like The Sopranos and BSG on cable, the networks responded somewhat with things like Lost. For comedies Friends was still going and many people like HIMYM. Heck even some of the very early reality stuff like the first seasons of Survivor and Big Brother were good.
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Blind Boy Grunt  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2013 210 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 6:43 am to Methuselah)
It's a Generational Thing: For me it was Lucy, Skelton, Twilight Zone, Cronkite, etc. Doesn't seem so "Golden", now . . .
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nevilletiger79  LSU Fan Monroe Member since Jan 2009 10083 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 6:46 am to Blind Boy Grunt)
As long as all these reality shows are on now this will never be golden era. Mid 60's to mid 70's is mine
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elprez00  New Orleans Saints Fan Hammond, LA Member since Sep 2011 6202 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 7:57 am to Methuselah)
Mine is the 90s. The networks were killing it. 90s brought you Seinfeld, Friends, Rosanne, Home Improvement, saved by the Bell, full house, etc. Oh, and don't forget TGIF. You had some solid dramas in Melrose place, Law And Order, NYPD Blue. I could go on and on. EDIT: Oh, lets not forget the Simpsons, Fresh Prince, X Files, Star Trek TNG, Twin Peaks, and some of the more memorable and quality casts on SNL. Double EDIT: /thread
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lordguill  LA-Lafayette Fan Member since Dec 2005 16713 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:03 am to elprez00)
The 90s and 2000s were solid. There are some great shows out there now, but they are overshadowed by all the reality crap.
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elprez00  New Orleans Saints Fan Hammond, LA Member since Sep 2011 6202 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:09 am to lordguill)
Honestly, I think the 2000's have been a horrible decade for TV. The networks sold out to the cheap and un-creative reality crap. Really, anything that pushed the envelope a little and did something different wasn't even given a chance if it wasnt an instant ratings success. (Firefly, Chuck, Family Guy the first time, etc)
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26174 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:19 am to Methuselah)
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The advent of original series on cable (basic and premium) seemed to set off a boom in creativeness
You can thank the 90's for that. The Simpsons and Married with Children helped mainstream being "edgy". Yes that sounds ridiculous because those shows are pretty tame by today's standards, but I remember when Bart Simpson saying Sucks was considered shocking.
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41135 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:22 am to TigerinATL)
I don't see how anyone can say anything but the 00s. There will always be bad TV, but niche programming has allowed some truly stellar shows on the air, and the medium has been able to attract far better talent than it could in the 70s, when it was seen as the ghetto for people who couldn't cut it in movies.
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Freauxzen  Wisc-Milwaukee Fan Louisiana Member since Feb 2006 16897 posts
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| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:24 am to Baloo)
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I don't see how anyone can say anything but the 00s. There will always be bad TV, but niche programming has allowed some truly stellar shows on the air, and the medium has been able to attract far better talent than it could in the 70s, when it was seen as the ghetto for people who couldn't cut it in movies.
But there was a lot of creativity in the 80s and 90s. Sure it wasn't bug budget, and none of it has aged particularly well, but they tried really hard to do different things. I still think any list, best half hours and best hour longs, would be made up of mostly shows from that time span. I'd argue though that the 2000s have been quite stellar so far.
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MrFreakinMiyagi  Alabama Fan Tampa Bay Member since Feb 2007 6861 posts
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| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:37 am to Methuselah)
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For comedies Friends was still going and many people like HIMYM.
To make an argument for the 2000-2010 decade, I would use shows that are/were good. Ya know, like The Office, Frasier, and South Park. These are good comedies. Friends was bad. HIMYM might be the least funny "comedy" in the last 20 years, other than That 70's Show.
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Heck even some of the very early reality stuff like the first seasons of Survivor and Big Brother were good.
No. New =/= good, and these shows are the same every season.
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elprez00  New Orleans Saints Fan Hammond, LA Member since Sep 2011 6202 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:40 am to MrFreakinMiyagi)
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To make an argument for the 2000-2010 decade, I would use shows that are/were good. Ya know, like The Office, Frasier, and South Park. These are good comedies.
You can count those on one hand. I could make a whole thread on the quality comedies on TV from 90-95. There will always be a hit here and there.
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MetryTyger  LSU Fan Metairie, LA Member since Jan 2004 5931 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:30 am to Methuselah)
1950-1970 Uncle Milty Calvalcade of Stars I Love Lucy Wagontrain Have Gun Will Travel Liberace Red Skelton Show The Honeymooners Leave it to Beaver Father Knows Best Davy Crockett Make Room for Daddy Twilight Zone Alfred Hitchcock Bonanza Ed Sullivan Gunsmoke The Rifleman Mr. Ed McHale's Navy Andy Griffith Dick Van Dyke Car 54 Where Are You? Outer Limits My Three Sons Gilligan's Island I Dream of Jeannie Daniel Boone Bewitched F Troop Gomer Pyle Beverly Hillbillies Petticoat Junction Green Acres Lost In Space The Invaders Star Trek Addams Family The Munsters Brady Bunch Garrison's Guerillas Lassie Gentle Ben Captain Kangaroo American Bandstand Jonny Quest Flintstones Jetsons Jackie Gleason Show Dean Martin Show Andy Williams Show The Tonight Show FBI Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Mission Impossible Hawaii 5-0 Time Tunnel Land of the Giants Adam 12 Rat Patrol Mannix Dragnet Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In Room 222 Mary Tyler Moore Night Gallery The Sixth Sense Carol Burnett Show
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41135 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:32 am to Freauxzen)
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But there was a lot of creativity in the 80s and 90s. Sure it wasn't bug budget, and none of it has aged particularly well, but they tried really hard to do different things.
They definitely built the foundation for the Golden Age, but even the best shows of that generation were still pretty formulaic and designed primarily to get into syndication, so the plot could never really advance. There's a few exceptions, and it's why Twin Peaks was such a game-changer, but even ambitious TV back then wasn't TOO ambitious. I think the best shows from that era were still ones that relied heavily on tropes and passive viewing. I love Homicide and think it's one of the best things ever on TV, but it still did its best to reset after every episode. It's descendent is The Wire, which blows it away. I will say that the 90s were a goldmine for the anti-sitcom. Probably the best era for that: Married with Children, Roseanne, and The Simpsons are probably the cream of the 80/90s crop. I will admit that it was the Golden Era for sitcoms.
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elprez00  New Orleans Saints Fan Hammond, LA Member since Sep 2011 6202 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:37 am to Baloo)
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Homicide
Forgot about this one. Great show.
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Freauxzen  Wisc-Milwaukee Fan Louisiana Member since Feb 2006 16897 posts
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| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:40 am to Baloo)
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They definitely built the foundation for the Golden Age, but even the best shows of that generation were still pretty formulaic and designed primarily to get into syndication, so the plot could never really advance. There's a few exceptions, and it's why Twin Peaks was such a game-changer, but even ambitious TV back then wasn't TOO ambitious. I think the best shows from that era were still ones that relied heavily on tropes and passive viewing.
I'll agree with this. Good point.
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I love Homicide and think it's one of the best things ever on TV, but it still did its best to reset after every episode. It's descendent is The Wire, which blows it away.
And this.
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I will say that the 90s were a goldmine for the anti-sitcom. Probably the best era for that: Married with Children, Roseanne, and The Simpsons are probably the cream of the 80/90s crop. I will admit that it was the Golden Era for sitcoms.
And this. Dammit Baloo! Sitcoms in the 80s-90s, hour-longs in the 2000s, hard to argue with that.
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Zamoro10 Member since Jul 2008 10676 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:42 am to Methuselah)
'78-'94 - The Prime of all the great shows of all time.
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41135 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:43 am to Freauxzen)
Sorry, Freaux. We almost disagreed on something other than Drive.
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Buddy Garrity  Penn Fan Dillon, Texas Member since Mar 2013 1367 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:50 am to Methuselah)
add the first season or so of Friday Night Lights to the 2000s
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davesdawgs  Georgia Fan Georgia Member since Oct 2008 10999 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:05 am to Methuselah)
It's hard to compare going back within my generation because there are just so many more shows now. Overall I think the quality of TV in the 2000's is not as good but considering there is limited time for even the most avid TV fan, today there a more good shows to watch in the cream of the crop. Here I'm thinking about the Emmy and Golden Globe Award winning shows like LOST, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Battlestar Galactica, Deadwood, Justified, Dexter, CSI, 24, House, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, The Shield, The West Wing, Six Feet Under, etc.; it's a long list. And for clarification, what I mean by the 2000's is shows starting anywhere from year 2000 to present which is why I included Game of Thrones and Justified which began in 2011 and 2010 respectively.
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alajones  LSU Fan Barksdale AFB Member since Oct 2005 19284 posts

| re: What do you consider the "golden age" for television (Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:12 am to Methuselah)
Depends. I'd say the 80's and 90's was the Golden Age for sitcoms.
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