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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 4:15 pm
I'm graduating from LSU in May and I'm interested in becoming a landman. I believe I've seen some posters on here that are landmen so I'm hoping they see this.

How did you get started? My gf's dad has been one for a couple of years. I hope he can get me a few leads but if not then I have no idea where to start. Travel 8 hours to go to seminars? I'll try to email a few of the BR AAPL officers to see what that gets me.

Any help would be appreciated.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:21 pm to
You need a hookup for field work...most brokers are out of Lafayette...Another option is to get your PLM at a school that offers the program and try to get an in-house job.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 5:29 pm to
Could I get a few years experience of field work then find an in-house job without a PLM degree?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:59 pm to
Not impossible but very unlikely considering the number of plms now coming out of college...field and in-house are completely different jobs.
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:18 pm to
Just about everyone I work with of have worked with has been because of knowing someone.

quote:

Could I get a few years experience of field work then find an in-house job without a PLM degree?


not likely
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:20 pm to
Would I always be in small towns in BFE Texas? I don't mind doing that for 5 or so years but after that I'd like to be able to move somewhere for an extended period. What exactly is in house? Sorry I'm a bit inexperienced with O&G.
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Would I always be in small towns in BFE Texas?


or La, Ms, OH, Pa, etc...

If traveling is not for you, field work is not for you.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 9:23 pm
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:27 pm to
I don't mind traveling for 5 or so years out of college. Just wondering what my possibilities would be with experience in the field and wanting to stay in one area for awhile.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94345 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Another option is to get your PLM at a school that offers the program


I'm planning on going this route through ULL. Even though its not a requirement, a lot of firms are wanting degrees. If anybody has in knowledge of it, I'm curious how PLM grads fare in job placement coming out of school.
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:35 pm to
quote:



I'm planning on going this route through ULL. Even though its not a requirement, a lot of firms are wanting degrees. If anybody has in knowledge of it, I'm curious how PLM grads fare in job placement coming out of school.


I have a Business degree from LSU and I worked with a girl with a PLM degree from ULL. Nothing she learned in her program helped her at all in the field. She had a hard time for a while but then got a job in house with sun coast. She also knew someone that helped her obtain that.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:43 pm to
If you don't mind me asking, are you in-house or field? Do you enjoy the job? I've done a lot of research on the career and have seen many times that networking is a must. I plan on joining AAPL and the LAPL when I move to Lafayette if not solely for the purpose of making contacts in the field.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:43 pm to
So I should stop considering going to ULL to get a PLM degree to go along with my Finance degree from LSU
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Member since Oct 2008
13672 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

If you don't mind me asking, are you in-house or field? Do you enjoy the job? I've done a lot of research on the career and have seen many times that networking is a must. I plan on joining AAPL and the LAPL when I move to Lafayette if not solely for the purpose of making contacts in the field.



I worked in house in houston for a year after I graduated. I hated it. I hated being in the office everyday. Some of it was the people in the office, but mostly me being stuck behind my desk.

Now I'm in the field and I travel A LOT. The travel isnt for every one, but Im 26, not married, and have no children. Im ok with it now.
Posted by DieselTiger1
9 Dragon
Member since Oct 2008
13672 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

So I should stop considering going to ULL to get a PLM degree to go along with my Finance degree from LSU


Do what you think is best for you, but I wouldnt do that. Obtaining Experience and connections will serve you well. Sounds like you already have one with your GF's Father. Use it.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:57 pm to
Thanks for the advice.

Not trying to get too personal but what's your plan for the future? Just wondering if you were to settle down with a family would you still be in the field? Or would you try to do something else?
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

If traveling is not for you, field work is not for you.

Or you could be stuck at home doing curative for 8 months.

Re: going in house. I'm still trying to find an in-house job. I don't have a PLM but I do have a JD. It seems like no matter the job, in this economy companies are looking for 5 and 10 year guys. I was talking to a ROW agent who works in Houston who told me his company doesn't even hire new guys without a law degree. That's grim.

quote:

Obtaining Experience and connections will serve you well.

True. But field work can be fickle. I get emails every week from people with MUCH more experience than me looking for work. Today I got a sob story email from a friend whose husband has 7 years of experience and has been out of work for 6 months.

quote:

I'm graduating from LSU in May and I'm interested in becoming a landman.

Go to all the job fairs you can. The O&G companies will be at most of them. There are internships for in house landman jobs.

This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94345 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

in this economy companies are looking for 5 and 10 year guys.


I've looked at a ton of job posting. Most seem to require at least 5 years experience. Leaving me to wonder how exactly anybody starts out.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I've looked at a ton of job posting. Most seem to require at least 5 years experience. Leaving me to wonder how exactly anybody starts out.

I wish I had better news, but I got my first job from my girlfriend's dad who has been in-house for a small independent for 20 years.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94345 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:28 pm to
not surprised at that. I don't really have any personal connections like that which is why I plan to join LAPL and go to meetings/events with the hopes of meeting as many folks as I can.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:33 pm to
That's a good strategy. You might also searching for "land tech" "land analyst" "land representative" etc. when searching indeed. What I do is search "land" in Louisiana & Texas. Those are in the land department, but mostly assisting the landman and have much lower qualifications - certainly room for upward mobility. I've been doing this for 16 months and figured I'd be in-house with a truck allowance by now. If things don't change in another 6 months I'm ditching this business for personal injury law.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:37 pm
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