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DJIA day-trading

Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:26 pm
I am retired and have $425,000 in individual
long term bonds. The annual interest is a little
over 6%. I have wondered if cashing these in and
day-trading the DJIA would produce more income but
I don't know anything about day-trading. Here's
my questions:

1. Would this be a bad idea?
2. How could an amateur like me approach this?
3. Are there trustworthy individuals/firms that
you would recommend to do this?
4. Is it too complicated for an amateur like me
to do this considering I have a good computer
and time to pay attention?
5. My thinking is to pick one good EFT that tracks
the DJIA only and make a trade only when an
opportunity arises, not to sit at the computer
and make multiple trades per day. Is this
realistic?
6. What strategy would you recommend?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:32 pm to
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1. Would this be a bad idea?


Im not even one of the gurus on here and I say emphatically say YES


You can lose your arse if you don't know what you are doing...
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:39 pm to
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DJIA day-trading

quote:

I don't know anything about day-trading.

quote:

Would this be a bad idea?


Didn't you answer your own question??

Seriously, I've been day trading for about 15 years. When I first started, with considerably more than $425,000, I lost my butt for a couple of years.

When someone would ask me back then how they could get to a million dollars by day trading I told them the secret was to start with TWO million dollars.....

I eventually developed a more disciplined, standard deviation-based approach to day trading and I make pretty decent money now.

If you do decide to try it, start with an amount you can afford to lose, say $50,000. Just like going to a casino, if you lose your initial stake, then walk away.

And do you really want to sell bonds earning you a coupon of 6%? You're going to take a tax hit reporting the gains you'll make by selling those bonds and then you won't have $425,000.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:46 pm to
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1. Would this be a bad idea?




ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

quote:

5. My thinking is to pick one good EFT that tracks
the DJIA only and make a trade only when an
opportunity arises, not to sit at the computer
and make multiple trades per day. Is this
realistic?



That would not be day trading, and ETF's are good investments, until people ruin them by over trading them. If you're gonna buy mutual funds or ETF's, trading often can kill your returns.


Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5600 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:52 pm to
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I am retired and have $425,000 in individual
long term bonds. The annual interest is a little
over 6%.

For the love of god hold onto those bad boys till maturity or you really need money.

Little hint, 90% of retail equity day traders are lamb for the slaughter. It may not be "fun" or "sexy" to just hold onto these bonds, but you're retired and the income you're getting from those are better than what you'll get in the open market. It is also much better than you will probably get day trading unless you're a long time trader or just really lucky.
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:31 pm to
I've heard enough. I'm putting that crazy idea to rest. I never would have been able to talk my wife into it, anyway. Thanks, guys.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

I've heard enough. I'm putting that crazy idea to rest. I never would have been able to talk my wife into it, anyway. Thanks, guys.





This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 5:38 pm
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37715 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:46 pm to
It's just money

You only live once

Follow your dreams













:troll:
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 6:00 pm to
No sarcastic mention of Iraqi Dinar? For shame MT
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

No sarcastic mention of Iraqi Dinar? For shame MT


Have no time for Dinar, Bitcoins Mother fricker
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4180 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:16 pm to
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I eventually developed a more disciplined, standard deviation-based approach to day trading and I make pretty decent money now.

Could you share your strategy in simple terms so that a lay person (with a bit of money to lose in the interest of learning) could try to replicate it some what?
Posted by long4life
Member since Aug 2012
845 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

You only live once
so you don't believe in God or eternity?
Posted by Cool J
Crescent City
Member since Dec 2011
3072 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:56 pm to
There a reason why the day trading fad didn't last long in the late 90's.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

:troll:



Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

so you don't believe in God or eternity?




The devil will let you day trade from hell?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Have no time for Dinar,





quote:

Bitcoins Mother fricker



Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 4:59 am to
quote:




I bet this was funny too

Morning Bastard
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 5:00 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Morning Bastard



Top of the morning to ya mate!

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