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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:18 am)
I get that there are legitimate criticisms of the president. I share many of them. In a futile attempt to make this thread not a huge flame fest and a conservative circle jerk, I'll list the things I disagree with him on: Drone strikes Deficit spending Gay marriage (I think everyone should get a contract, not tax benefits, gay and straight alike) Leaving Guantanamo Bay open Support of Israel regardless of the views of the rest of the world, or their rightness Not ending the war in Afghanistan immediately So now that that's out of the way... Barack Obama is a liberal. He's not as liberal as other political figures. He's not as unlikeable as other liberal figures. He is, however, black. So is his wife. It's the hate for Michelle Obama that convinces me that there is, at a minimum, latent racism influencing the hate of Barack Obama. Every First Lady has a pet program. Every First Lady has photo ops. A short example is that Laura Bush was all about libraries. They're federally funded, they're a government institution, and she wanted them promoted. That never attracted much attention from conservatives, or liberals, for that matter. Libraries are a thing we can all generally see as positive (whether we think they should be publicly or privately funded). The same can, and does, apply to Michelle Obama's obesity work. She advocates for community gardens, plants them and pushes for healthy living. Yes, she appears on television and in pop culture. It's what people want. In an odd way, it's the free market working. It's an uneducated electorate wanting style. Still, she's hated more than any first lady I can remember. The only difference is her race. So frick you guys.
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8573 posts
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| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:19 am to FightinTiger)
She was never proud to be an American before her husbands run for POTUS
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It's the hate for Michelle Obama that convinces me that there is, at a minimum, latent racism influencing the hate of Barack Obama.
I agree that some probably stems from racism, but she is not a feminine woman. Michelle Obama is an awkward First Lady and it's not because she is black but because she is not eloquent with her words or body language.
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pitsa_bantu  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2013 113 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:23 am to Interception)
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She was never proud to be an American
I think Rush Limbaugh and millions of his admirers shares the same sentiments.
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| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:24 am to FightinTiger)
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It's the hate for Michelle Obama that convinces me that there is, at a minimum, latent racism influencing the hate of Barack Obama. Every First Lady has a pet program. Every First Lady has photo ops.
which first lady was caught in a compromising position, or was engaged in an extreme political statement.....basically which one hasn't acted like a lady?
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:25 am to FightinTiger)
Ron Paul has probably never been proud of his country. Why no extreme hate for him? He was a member of Congress. He actually had power. The First Lady just pushes for things.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71864 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:27 am to FightinTiger)
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Ron Paul has probably never been proud of his country. Why no extreme hate for him?
What goddamned rock have you been living under??? Are you serious?
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:28 am to RogerTheShrubber)
When in his lifetime should a libertarian have been proud of his country?
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8573 posts
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| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:29 am to pitsa_bantu)
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I think Rush Limbaugh and millions of his admirers shares the same sentiments.
Who knows, but she said it and its very unFirst Lady like.
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Tigerlaff  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2010 6040 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:30 am to FightinTiger)
Boy, you cracked the code.
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:30 am to Tigerlaff)
Your mom cracked the code.
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pitsa_bantu  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2013 113 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:31 am to Interception)
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Who knows,
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Zed  Alabama Fan Member since Feb 2010 5697 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:31 am to FightinTiger)
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Still, she's hated more than any first lady I can remember. The only difference is her race.
They hated Hillary too. Is there a racial element for some people? Sure. I think many hate Obama because he's a democrat in the white house, and their hate extends to her.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71864 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:31 am to FightinTiger)
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When in his lifetime should a libertarian have been proud of his country?
Most libertarians don't view national pride like you people do. Ron Paul has been blasted more than anyone on this board other than a standing president (bush/Obama) but nah, it just has to be racism, huh? Can't possibly be anything else....has to be ...
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| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:32 am to pitsa_bantu)
Shows how much I follow that clown or his viewers. ETA: FLOTUS vs Rush's behavior? See my point?
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:34 am to RogerTheShrubber)
You're acting like a moron, Roger. I spent half of the OP talking about things that I dislike about Barack Obama. You're acting as if I think the only thing people dislike him for is his race.
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pitsa_bantu  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2013 113 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:34 am to Zed)
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They hated Hillary too. Is there a racial element for some people? Sure.
Well stated. But I also think FightingTiger's point was that some people on opposite side of Democrats won't admit that racial element on their side, even if it's a minority.
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S.E.C. Crazy  Alabama Fan Alabama Member since Feb 2013 279 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:35 am to Interception)
Try hes a dumb Marxist who never created a job or had a real job. And hes from Kenya... 
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| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:35 am to FightinTiger)
You have to admit school libraries are less controversial than changing the lunch menu's across America?
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71864 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:37 am to pitsa_bantu)
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. But I also think FightingTiger's point was that some people on opposite side of Democrats won't admit that racial element on their side, even if it's a minority.
Like racism doesn't exist? I don't think anyone is saying that.
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pitsa_bantu  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Feb 2013 113 posts

| re: Why I think latent racism is involved in the hate of Barack Obama... (Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:38 am to Interception)
Both were taken out of context. I apologise my sarcasm in my earlier post didn't come through well enough.
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