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WikiTiger
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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Now if you torrent a copy of a piece of software you've purchased so that EVERYONE can have it...that's a problem.


but that happens non-stop these days

and governments and rights holders have been powerless to stop it.

and as time goes on, it will become even more and more common


so the question becomes: how do content producers adapt?






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Zach
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


Zach rises to a point of information. Mr. Chairman, what is IP?





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WikiTiger
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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what is IP?


"Intellectual Property"


in quotes because I don't believe it really exists






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Zach
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Thanks. I think that became an issue a few years back with newspapers. IE, if I link an article from the NYT, they don't get paid for it and they wanted to.

Sounds like a similar issue with music. If you own a bar and you play a Billy Joel record over the sound system you're technically supposed to pay Billy Joel a royalty fee. But that stuff is extremely hard to enforce.






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Scrowe
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They are starting to adapt, by requiring licenses to be pulled from their servers and such. Meaning for their product to be used at some point your computer must check in with their network to say you have a good license every so often otherwise the program will not work. The big money programs are starting this and perfecting the process and it will only be a matter of time before it catches on with others.

A software company isn't in the business of giving away software, just like casinos aren't in the business of giving out money.






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ForeLSU
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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but that happens non-stop these days


I realize that, I'm trying to figure out why some have no ethical issue with the practice.

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so the question becomes: how do content producers adapt?


depends on what you're trying to protect, and who you're trying to protect it from. Software as a service is certainly a growing model, along with hybrid, open-source business models.






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WikiTiger
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by requiring licenses to be pulled from their servers and such. Meaning for their product to be used at some point your computer must check in with their network to say you have a good license every so often otherwise the program will not work.


these methods are easily overcome






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WikiTiger
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along with hybrid, open-source business models.




While I may not agree with every decision they make, I applaud Canonical for being able to "sell" free software.






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Poodlebrain
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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there future is one where IP cannot survive
Then what is a bitcoin worth? It is nothing more than a piece of intellectual property.

So is a trademark. Will I be able to sell a product called Coca-Cola in the future with cans and logos identical to those of the Coca Cola Company? Why shouldn't I be able to sell my own secret recipe soft drink in an identical can or bottle? The colors red and white existed before Coca Cola, and the words and shapes are simply manifestations of ideas that deserve zero protection.

Maybe you should reconsider your assertion given your promotion of that which you claim can't survive.






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bgator85
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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People own their labor. You can't own information.


This may have been discussed already, but when you get a patent, for example, you do not own the information. The whole point of the patent process is to provide incentive for creation and invention while fostering innovation. You get protection on your information for a limited period of time, and in exchange you disclose your entire invention so that the public at large can improve upon it. It protects your investment and educates the public as well.






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NC_Tigah
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not


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give it time.

more and more information will continue to be released, and once the cat is out of the bag, there's no getting it back in.

that's the point of the thread that you simply don't understand.

there future is one where IP cannot survive

You sound almost as omniscient as Nikita Khrushchev addressing the west . . . .
. . . . "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you."

Didn't quite work out that way for him, but what the heck.
It sounded great at the time.

Here's a thought: Try banging a shoe on the table as you're telling me what the future holds. It's much more effective.









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