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PurpleNGoldFan 
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| What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:17 pm)
Anyone seen this documentary or have any knowledge from school or otherwise about quantum physics or quantum mechanics.
Talks a lot about emotions and why and how things come about.
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foshizzle
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:26 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
I have not seen it.
But I got my undergrad in Physics and studied QM. I always get a good laugh when someone tries to bring non-physical phenomena into the picture. It has nothing at all to do with emotions.
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:27 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
I like reading about physics.
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:33 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
Yes. Its on youtube and it's pretty germans, but then again, maybe it hasnt been posted before and my idea of the flow of time is wrong?
Hmm
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PurpleNGoldFan
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:48 pm to foshizzle)
What about how we hold something in mind?
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:08 pm to foshizzle)
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But I got my undergrad in Physics and studied QM. I always get a good laugh when someone tries to bring non-physical phenomena into the picture. It has nothing at all to do with emotions.
IYO are there any brain states that can be reduced to physics?
in my experience, most people who studied physics are reductive physicalists.
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:19 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
I have seen the movie, and while it is good at introducing basic quantam mechanics principles it gets too out there for science when they factor in the brain aspect.
I mean, the Native Americans couldn't see ships because they didn't understand them?
I use the cartoon schematic for the double slit experiment from time to time in here.
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foshizzle
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:20 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff)
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are there any brain states that can be reduced to physics?
Define "brain state" so I can give you a good answer.
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most people who studied physics are reductive physicalists.
I have no idea what a "reductive physicalist" is. Please explain.
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:21 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
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What the Bleep Do We Know?
The truth is, we don't know anything. TMBG
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:25 pm to foshizzle)
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But I got my undergrad in Physics and studied QM. I always get a good laugh when someone tries to bring non-physical phenomena into the picture. It has nothing at all to do with emotions.
Anyone who has an understanding of Physics or does physics would laugh at that bull shite.
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Bunsbert Montcroff
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:46 pm to foshizzle)
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Define "brain state" so I can give you a good answer.
well let's use "brain activity" instead of brain state. not to move the goalposts, just for the sake of clarity.
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I have no idea what a "reductive physicalist" is. Please explain.
someone who holds the idea that mind / cognition / consciousness is wholly reducible to physical processes. comes up a lot in philosophy of mind debates.
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 8:28 pm to PurpleNGoldFan)
I've seen it. It was cool
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foshizzle
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| re: What the Bleep Do We Know? Quantum Mechanics (Posted on 2/2/13 at 8:55 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff)
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well let's use "brain activity" instead of brain state
If you mean neuron impulses, it seems to me that you don't need QM for that. There are other subspecialties in human biology that have studied that subject explicitly and more closely.
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someone who holds the idea that mind / cognition / consciousness is wholly reducible to physical processes.
Not quite true. The idea behind much of science is that you must be able to produce predictions that can be tested. QM does this very well and has passed that test every time.
Quantum mechanics was specifically developed to model the behavior of subatomic particles, it has absolutely nothing to do with "brain states", emotions, or the like. If you want to call that "reductive", so be it. It works very well for its purpose and not for anything else.
If you can't make specific predictions that cannot be compared with data, all you are doing is some version of this:
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