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Decatur
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Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


And arrest anyone who tries to enforce that/those federal law(s)?

Should a state be able to ignore ALL federal laws if it wants to?

If so, how would you envision the future of the United States in light of this?







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constant cough
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Lafayette
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?



If it's an executive order from Obama, yes.






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Decatur
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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If it's an executive order from Obama, yes.


Just that?






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Powerman
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


The states should be able to ignore any law that violates civil liberties of the state residents

They should only have to abide by laws that protect the liberties of individuals

i.e. stuff like gun laws should not have to be followed






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constant cough
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Just that?



No, that just seemed the most obvious.






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udtiger
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Louisiana
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


If it unconstitutionally encroaches on the sovereign authority of the state, or the rights of its citizens, then YES.

See nullification theory - supported by such people as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.






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Jbird
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


What's the difference between ignoring and not enforcing, I mean hell Obama "prioritized" enforcement of laws, then say we will no longer prosecute certain laws, why can't states do the same?





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Decatur
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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The states should be able to ignore any law that violates civil liberties of the state residents

They should only have to abide by laws that protect the liberties of individuals


Who determines whether the laws violate said civil liberties?

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i.e. stuff like gun laws should not have to be followed


Why not just throw tax laws into there also



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HempHead
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Should a state be able to ignore ALL federal laws if it wants to?


Sure.






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UncleFestersLegs
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Why not just throw tax laws into there also


Or drug laws?






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HempHead
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Appalachia
Member since Mar 2011
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Why not just throw tax laws into there also


Now you are talking the right game.






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Decatur
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Or drug laws?


Sure






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UncleFestersLegs
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Member since Nov 2010
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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See nullification theory - supported by such people as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.


Unfortunately, neither could have envisioned states surrendering the sovereignty for highway funding.






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Decatur
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Now you are talking the right game


Environmental laws - frick em






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junkfunky
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Member since Jan 2011
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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What's the difference between ignoring and not enforcing, I mean hell Obama "prioritized" enforcement of laws, then say we will no longer prosecute certain laws, why can't states do the same?


They can and do. If you only have so much to pay LEO to enforce the laws you are gonna give some laws more attention than others, which happens every where all the time (certain traffic laws, sodomites, etc.). What's the fed gonna do, force them to enforce the law without the funds to pay for enforcement?

That question is intended to be rhetorical but I think fedgov might have a different opinion of what the obvious answer is.






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HempHead
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Appalachia
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Environmental laws - frick em


Environmental protection could be much more robust if a greater recognition of private property (see: your person) was allowed in litigation.

I am a tree hugger but in no way do I find federal mandates or laws concerning the proper use of chemicals or land management to be satisfactory.






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McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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If so, how would you envision the future of the United States in light of this?


read The Federalist Papers and get back with us.






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Bunsbert Montcroff
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


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Who determines whether the laws violate said civil liberties?

the same esteemed, intelligent, group of individuals who always have.

the tigerdroppings political board.






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Queen
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


Mississippi is already trying to ignore federal laws. Is this what inspired this thread?

LINK






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Decatur
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re: Should a state be able to ignore any federal law that it wants to?


Mississippi, Arizona, Wyoming, even Louisiana is thinking about dipping their toes into the water - Who else am I missing?





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