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hat military spending during the cold war was just awful huh? is that not one of the things the government should do when needed?


And how did that "Star Wars" missile defense system work out? As a matter of fact Reagan's defense spending was horrendous during the cold war and in the end had much less to do with the fall of the the USSR than Russia's own economic mistakes. Lec Walesa did more harm to the USSR than Reagan and spent a lot less money doing it. Reagan was all fluff. He painted a picture of a "proud" America and idiots bought it hook line and sinker. In the end he did what he did best, he "acted" his way into convincing America he was great. The man dug a deficit/debt whole so deep it's a miracle Clinton pulled us out of it. Neither party thinks positive when they hear the term "Reaganomics" yet everyone thinks he was a grat Pres.






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lsufan112001
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re: My teaching paycheck just dropped $133.09/month?


how old are you Bama fan?





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You haven't seen shite yet wait til the full effect of Obamacare goes into effect.





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Powerman
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Of course taxes go up when you are 25.


But your car insurance goes down

Seriously people....this is what we're putting in our classrooms to teach the future.






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KrushGroove
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I hope to finish my Phd by 2015 and start teaching college-level right away


How far along are you in the PhD work?

As for moving into teaching college right away, are you talking about a tenure track position? And one in Education or another field?

The straight to tenure track after PhD in such a field isn't at all promising right now, generally speaking. But maybe you meant another career path in postsecondary than tenure track or in another field.






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Powerman
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I guess you won't need a teacher to educate your dumb arse kids then.


Don't home schooled kids actually prove to be more educated?






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Powerman
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Numerous studies may suggest that homeschooled students on average outperform their peers on standardized tests


LINK






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NC_Tigah
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Teaching = Not a real job.
Presumably you're not being serious.






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KrushGroove
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Well, that's something that is hard to say and really relative. I have had all sorts of kids that were considered home schooled (graded their tests or assignments or worked tied evaluations of the home schooling curriculum and how it was being taught, etc) and there is just as wide a scope in efficacy and performance as you would find in public students.

I have seen more than one student whose home schooling environment was just awful and these kids aren't being given much of a chance.

I think the biggest difference is the investment of the teacher in student success and that is true whether or not we are talking a teacher or parent.

An involved parent and/or teacher makes a huge difference. And if you are an involved parent, then investment in your kids education is going to be evident whether or not you home school a kid or send them to school. And if you don't give a damn, as a parent, the fact that you are home schooling them won't matter.






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KrushGroove
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Numerous studies may suggest that homeschooled students on average outperform their peers on standardized tests



Not sure if you wanted to really discuss this or not, but if you are really interested you ought to look at other sources as well as the source that the HSLDA uses in that wiki entry. They list two shortcomings off the bat. And there are others besides.

I have been a supporter of home schooling as long as I have taught, but I think we also need to be careful about making these broad, flat judgments. And that goes for people who dismiss home schooling as dumb arse parents and kids, as well.






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CptRusty
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Teaching = Not a real job.








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catnip
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Speaking of higher taxes, I think Phil Michelson DID NOT do hollywood any favors by his statement about moving out of Cal. Now the hollywood elite will have to stay put or be seen as hypocritical if they to want to move. They will think that upping the movies to see their "masterpieces" will make up for the increase. But if the conservatives who pay to see those movies would stop going the hollywood leftest would go bankrupt. Oh yea I forgot about obama bailing them out with the taxes he conficates from those conservatives who actually run the gov't with the work they put in..





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joshnorris14
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re: My teaching paycheck just dropped $133.09/month?


Unfortunately, your paycheck isn't taxed at 100%





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RCDfan1950
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teaching paycheck just dropped $133.09/month?Not understanding this tax increase because this is more than 2.5%. $1,597 annually...WTH?!!?!?


Obama Phone Lady sends her most sincere 'THANKS', for your altruistic contribution to her 'massah's vision of social justice!

Guess that means you won't be buying any art soon.

Forward.







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RCDfan1950
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Numerous studies may suggest that homeschooled students on average outperform their peers on standardized tests
Not sure if you wanted to really discuss this or not, but if you are really interested you ought to look at other sources as well as the source that the HSLDA uses in that wiki entry. They list two shortcomings off the bat. And there are others besides. I have been a supporter of home schooling as long as I have taught, but I think we also need to be careful about making these broad, flat judgments. And that goes for people who dismiss home schooling as dumb arse parents and kids, as well.



Heck, I've heard of studies that indicate that folk learn better from a COMPUTER, than in real life interactions where sociology becomes a distraction. Breakin new ground.







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townhallsavoy
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LINK


Uhh...did you just read the first sentence and not continue on?

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Homeschooling Achievement, a compilation of studies published by the Home School Legal Defense Association


I'm sure they're really unbiased in their compiling efforts.

Also, the Wiki link mentions the Rudner study, and from Stanford.edu:

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Rudner’s study was funded and sponsored by the Home School Legal Defense Assocation. It analyzed the test results of more than 20,000 home schooled students using the Iowa Test of Basic Skills, and it was interpreted by many to find that the average home schooled student outperformed his or her public school peer. But Rudner’s study reaches no such conclusion, and Rudner himself issued multiple cautionary notes in the report, including the following: “Because this was not a controlled experiment, the study does not demonstrate that home schooling is superior to public or private schools and the results must be interpreted with caution.” Rudner used a select and unrepresentative sample, culling all of his participants from families who had purchased curricular and assessment materials from Bob Jones University. Because Bob Jones University is an evangelical Christian university (a university which gained a national reputation in the 1980s for its policy of forbidding interracial dating), the sample of participating families in Rudner’s study is highly skewed toward Christian home schoolers. Extrapolations from this data to the entire population of home schoolers are consequently highly unreliable. Moreover, all the participants in Rudner’s study had volunteered their participation. According to Rudner, more than 39,000 contracted to take the Iowa Basic Skills Test through Bob Jones, but only 20,760 agreed to participate in his study. This further biases Rudner’s sample, for parents who doubt the capacity of their child to do well on the test are precisely the parents we might expect not to volunteer their participation. A careful social scientific comparison of test score data would also try to take account of the problem that public school students take the Iowa Basic Skills Test in a controlled environment; many in Rudner’s study tested their own children.




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2011 Martin-Chang found that unschooling children ages 5-10 scored significantly below traditionally educated children, while academically oriented home schooled children scored from one half grade level above to 4.5 grade levels above traditionally school children on standardized tests (n=37 home schooled children matched with children from the same socioeconomic and educational background)


Then this...

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Stanford University political scientist Professor Rob Reich [44] (not to be confused with former U.S. Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich) wrote in The Civic Perils of Homeschooling (2002) that homeschooling can potentially give students a one-sided point of view, as their parents may, even unwittingly, block or diminish all points of view but their own in teaching. He also argues that homeschooling, by reducing students' contact with peers, reduces their sense of civic engagement with their community.


And from the common sense angle - I think that parents who choose to homeschool their children greatly care about their kids while many public school students are dropped off at local schools that parents see as a "babysitter" or a "magical-make-my-kid-successful-because-I-don't-know-what-I'm-doing" building. So the environment affects the sample making the conclusion "homeschooling is better than public schooling" null.



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DaGarun
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He didn't raise SS taxes, he let his holiday expire

Semantics. If we'd let his "stimulus" expire, would some not screech about the Draconian "cuts" (then blame Bush)?

If we applied the same framework to both items, it would either be viewed as as change from current baseline (increase/cut), or an expiration of a temporary law (no big deal). But pick one, you can't have it both ways.






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If you care about making $$$ you need to change professions.





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Powerman
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Now the hollywood elite will have to stay put or be seen as hypocritical if they to want to move

Not really

They can justify moving to New Orleans and claim they're going to help rebuild






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He painted a picture of a "proud" America and idiots bought it hook line and sinker.


Nobody's talking about "proud America" today !
It's going to be interesting to watch the historic decline of this over-rated nation-state.






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