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I'm getting a safe and want to put it upstairs

Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:05 am
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:05 am
14 gun safe. weighs a little over 300 lbs.

i have an older home with wood floors. should i be concerned putting it upstairs. some people have advised me not to do so.

also, whats best method for moving a safe up a flight of stairs?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:08 am to
I would get a much heavier safe and keep it downstairs, at least 750 pounds
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7162 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:09 am to
would that be any different than a fatass standing upstairs? or a large piece of furniture. 300lbs isn't that much
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:10 am to
Its fire rated 30 min @ 1400

And its bigger than I need and on sale for a very good price
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:12 am to
My thoughts exactly. What about getting it up there?

Take off the door and carry?
Stair dolly?
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:14 am to
Man power
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:19 am to
We nutted up and moved mine. Definitely take the door off. Its a lot of the weight.

Once you have it on hardwood.. Get and old comforter to put under it and slide it. Mine weight much more than 300lbs though.

To get it up stairs, I would lay it on its back or side and slide it up.. Be like doing leg press but better than carrying.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:19 am to
When your house burns it's gonna end up on the first floor anyway.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2377 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:30 am to
This. Would not put upstairs
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:32 am to
Regardless. Have it bolted to the wall. Also, call your security company and they will come out and install sensors on the gun safe door and a pad to turn it on and off. My house was burglarized recently and the cop told me most people just get the gun safe and set it in a room or closet and never hook it up. Burglars just load up the whole safe and bust it open once they get it home
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:32 am to
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14 gun safe. weighs a little over 300 lbs.


Have you actually bought this safe yet?

Because if you haven't, the modular safes are definitely the way to go - the Titan SnapSafe assembles without tools and the door is the heaviest part at 90 pounds.

I have one on my wishlist, which is why I know about them. If you've already purchased the safe, I would treat it like a large metal couch - nobody between the safe and the floor (pulling is easier anyway, once you secure it with ropes and straps), lay blankets or whatever on the stairs, strap it up good and have somebody take the slack up on the rope as you pull it up - most safely with 3 or 4 people, but 2 strong people can probably do it.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 10:34 am
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8961 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:32 am to
I'd find a way to put it downstairs. Seems like a lot of hassle...
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:35 am to
If you have to put it upstairs

Put down at least 1 sheet of Good 3/4 ply wood to sit it on this will spread the load and prevent sagging in the joist.

If it were me i would take cabinet grade plywood, cut the sheet in half , half round the top sheet for a more finished look. Glue them together and use that 4'x4' x 1.5" as the base
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19673 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I would get a much heavier safe and keep it downstairs, at least 750 pounds

The frick? Sarcasm?
Posted by HTownTigerFan
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2010
261 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:55 am to
I just did this a couple of weeks ago. My safe weighs ~400 pounds without guns etc. I put it upstairs as downstairs was not an option. Just the way my house is laid out. I put it in a corner (more support). Rented an appliance dollie from Uhaul for about $10 and got a couple of buddies. Went up without any issues. Looks good in my game room too. It's a silver Winchester Ranger
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:01 am to
Agree with the heavier safe. A few guys could easily carry off a 300 lbs safe.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:36 am to
quote:

The frick? Sarcasm?


none at all, a 300 pound safe offers little protection, go big or go home
Posted by jwsnatic
TX
Member since Jun 2012
42 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:40 am to
I called a local moving company to move mine upstairs, cost about $100. 2 guys pushing from below and one big dude pulling it with a tow strap. Probably could have done it with a few friends but if it starts sliding once you are near the top of the stairs its going to kill/maim anyone behind it and destroy whatever is at the bottom of the stairs.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19673 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:41 am to
quote:

none at all, a 300 pound safe offers little protection, go big or go home



You bolt it to the floor/wall, and its not going anywhere
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:45 am to
quote:

You bolt it to the floor/wall, and its not going anywhere


maybe so, but total weight is also a good indication of quality of safe, a 300 pound safe could be breached much easier than a 750,

think a meth head with a crow bar
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