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| MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:06 am)
It’s hardly a secret. After all, in a letter to a senior officer, no less than a young Bill Clinton openly admitted that many of his cohort to “loath[ed] the military.” Still, it’s stunning to hear a modern-day liberal make a similar admission.
On her MSNBC show today, Melissa Harris-Perry stated that the U.S. military is “despised as an engine of war by many progressives.”
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joshnorris14 
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:07 am to CajunAngele)
So you don't despise engines of war?
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:31 am to joshnorris14)
I despise Hillary and Obamas common idealogical theme
Twisting the words does not work, try again. The 'progressives' are becoming more blatant despising our military, is all. They are just more forward with their thoughts and intentions, because they think they have carte blanche' majority rule. And as a matter of a fact; I am blatant in my despise of them not our military.
The hypocrisy of this MSNBC host is surreal. Obama usurped congress to go to war and it is somehow okay if he does it.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:37 am to CajunAngele)
I find it surprising that she finds it "surprising" that the military was one of the first institutions to ban descrimination.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:42 am to CajunAngele)
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On her MSNBC show today, Melissa Harris-Perry stated that the U.S. military is “despised as an engine of war by many progressives.”
Probably despised as such by a lot of Muslims too if I had to guess
I know veterans who look at the military as such
It's not an unreasonable stance
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Mo Jeaux
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:42 am to CajunAngele)
I can't get past her lisp long enough to actually listen to what she says.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:51 am to CajunAngele)
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The hypocrisy of this MSNBC host is surrea
What did she say that was hypocritical?
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:56 am to CajunAngele)
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“despised as an engine of war by many progressives.”
IMHO this attitude will spread to the general US electorate as time passes. It won't end up being only the "progrssives" that dislike the military and military personnel . . . it will end being common amongst the populace.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 10:56 am to cwill)
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What did she say that was hypocritical?
She says, U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War"
Yet she fails to report on the CIC Obamas hypocrisy of being a war president.
IOW: Instead of highlighting and blaming Obamas actions as CIC or his foreign policy, she blames the military for war.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:01 am to joshnorris14)
“I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. Some of these young men think that war is all glory but let me say war is all hell.”
- The first modern American general, and coincidentally, the first superintendant of The Old War Skule.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:04 am to CajunAngele)
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she blames the military for war.
Exactly! And I believe this attitude will expand and persist.
One day, veterans and military will be blamed for the USA being bankrupt. The politicians of the Left who will be running the show will not be blamed. The military's "endless wars" will be blamed.
The Lefty power brokers need demons and scapegoats, and, their willing accomplices in the media will help the power brokers shift the blame to a convenient "demon" -- warmonger veterans and soldiers !
Sounds totally illogical, right? Does not matter. The blame-shifting will be based on emotion, not logic. The fact that logic would dictate blame to be upon the Lefty Politician who expanded and sustained the wars will be ignored while the vets and soldiers take the blame.
Then, when it comes time to take the guns, the soldiers and civilians won't be so much in love with each other.
Of course, this is more of a movie screenplay than something that is in our immediate future.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:29 am to CajunAngele)
I can't read Harris-Perry without seeing Hairy Penis. I've got the ghey i guess.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:29 am to Champagne)
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The Lefty power brokers need demons and scapegoats
You mean like communists and illegal immigrants?
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 11:38 am to CajunAngele)
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She says, U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War"
She said by some progressives...she didnt say it WAS...nor did she delve into the why some progressives feel that way. She simply stated some progressives view the military that way. Do you disagree?
Her comments do not equate to hypocrisy.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:33 pm to Champagne)
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IMHO this attitude will spread to the general US electorate as time passes. It won't end up being only the "progrssives" that dislike the military and military personnel . . . it will end being common amongst the populace.
Bull shite. The movement to do this in the 60's, though popular at the time among the youth culture, backfired hugely in the long run.
Also, it would be difficult to market this idea today, seeing as how everything the military does is controlled by their liberal hero.
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blueboy
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:35 pm to Champagne)
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Sounds totally illogical, right?
because it is, and no amount of "emoting" is going to change that.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:53 pm to Layabout)
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You mean like communists and illegal immigrants?
Whatever group that will serve as the convenient group will be targeted for political purposes.
Why would Leftys target other Leftys? They would not. Illegal immigrants are the perfect constituency for the Left. These folks welcome Big FedGov handing out free healthcare, free food and free shelter. These folks will always vote for Big FedGov, and that's why there will always be open borders here in the USA.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 12:59 pm to blueboy)
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Bull shite. The movement to do this in the 60's, though popular at the time among the youth culture, backfired hugely in the long run.
Time will tell, my friend. Time will tell.
Still, I don't know what you mean by the phrase "backfired hugely in the long run." That seems quite conclusory, and, you've provided nothing to support your conclusion.
Let's wait a couple of decades. We'll see how much the US civilian population and the US military love each other at that time.
The Left's "Long March" grand strategy is to amass political power by dividing traditional US interest groups and pitting against each other. Sort of a "divide and conquer", if you will.
If the US civilian population can be propagandized over time into resenting the military ( say for example, because soldiers and vets consume too much of scarce FedGov resources, such that civilians have to do with less FedGov largesse ), then things might trend more towards my scenario.
If you think that the Left would never try anything like this in order to advance their political agenda, then, I disagree. The Left has proven willing to do anything to advance their agenda, by any means necessary . . . and in case you haven't noticed lately . . . they are winning the political war by a large margin just now.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:26 pm to Champagne)
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Still, I don't know what you mean by the phrase "backfired hugely in the long run." That seems quite conclusory, and, you've provided nothing to support your conclusion.
By the mid 80's, the former "activists" who derided soldiers were either reduced to sheepish apologists or simply ran and hid, so to speak. The careers of people like Jane Fonda took a nose-dive and she is considered a liability for films today, as her fairly recent movies have proven. quote:
If the US civilian population can be propagandized over time into resenting the military ( say for example, because soldiers and vets consume too much of scarce FedGov resources, such that civilians have to do with less FedGov largesse ), then things might trend more towards my scenario.
Nonsense. They've learned never to go after the soldiers themselves. Soldiers don't make policy and have no control over the resources that are allocated to them.quote:
If you think that the Left would never try anything like this in order to advance their political agenda, then, I disagree. The Left has proven willing to do anything to advance their agenda, by any means necessary . .
And so does the right, as the poster above, who you obviously misunderstood, pointed out. Communists and immigrants are the right's scapegoats.quote:
they are winning the political war by a large margin just now.
Now THAT is the illusion. 10 years ago, the democrats were "done, it's over." 20 years ago, the republicans. It's a Machiavellian cycle. Just wait a while. Partisans who think they have a mandate will always bury themselves while trying to advance their fringe agenda.
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| re: MSNBC’s Harris-Perry Admits: U.S. Military “Despised As An Engine Of War" (Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:01 pm to Champagne)
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Why would Leftys target other Leftys?
It was sarcasm. The commies and the illegal immigrants have been the bogeymen of the republican party for decades. Add gays and baby killers to round things out.
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