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Bill Clinton to Democrats: Don’t trivialize gun culture


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Former President Bill Clinton warned a group of top Democratic donors at a private Saturday meeting not to underestimate the passions that gun control stirs among many Americans.

“Do not patronize the passionate supporters of your opponents by looking down your nose at them,” Clinton said.

“A lot of these people live in a world very different from the world lived in by the people proposing these things,” Clinton said. “I know because I come from this world.


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And Clinton said that passing the 1994 federal assault weapons ban “devastated” more than a dozen Democratic lawmakers in the 1994 midterms — and cost then-Speaker of the House Tom Foley (D-Wash.) his job and his seat in Congress.

“I’ve had many sleepless nights in the many years since,” Clinton said. One reason? “I never had any sessions with the House members who were vulnerable,” he explained — saying that he had assumed they already knew how to explain their vote for the ban to their constituents.


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Clinton closed his remarks with a warning to big Democratic donors that ultimately many Democratic lawmakers will be defeated if they choose to stand with the president.

“Do not be self-congratulatory about how brave you for being for this” gun control push, he said. “The only brave people are the people who are going to lose their jobs if they vote with you.”










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davesdawgs
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Clinton knows the deal and is pragmatic. Hopefully the Dems don't listen to him so that some of these a-holes can get voted out of office.





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Zed
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“Do not be self-congratulatory about how brave you for being for this” gun control push, he said. “The only brave people are the people who are going to lose their jobs if they vote with you.”
I bet they loved hearing that.






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LSUgusto
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While I loathe Clinton's character, he's as savvy a politician as there is. Hell, he single-handedly rescued Obama's second-term presidential bid with his convention speech.





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onmymedicalgrind
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Whether you agree with his politics or not, it's hard to argue that Bill Clinton isn't a wise man or a very capable leader.






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Strannix
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Whether you agree with his politics or not, it's hard to argue that Bill Clinton isn't a wise man or a very capable leader.

I am conservative as they come and I would take brother Bill over the empty suit we have now any day of the week, the man is a genius.






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CamdenTiger
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I am conservative as they come and I would take brother Bill over the empty suit we have now any day of the week, the man is a genius.


True, but I'd vote for a potted plant. too.






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50Mullets
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the man is a genius.

In the most Machiavellian sense of the word.






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souldog
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I walked down to the corner and Clinton says it too well for the other.





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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He is right. There are only a handful of states that have a majority anti-gun population.







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dr smartass phd
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I am conservative as they come and I would take brother Bill over the empty suit we have now any day of the week, the man is a genius.



You know things are bad, when you reflect on the Clinton years as the good ol days






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prplhze2000
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He's speaking from experience. He realizes three weeks ago the GOP opposition was demoralized and Obama is now firing up the GOP base in ways that the GOP leadership could not have even imagined.





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Revelator
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That's a powerful message coming from him and one they should heed.





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Jon Ham
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Hell, he single-handedly rescued Obama's second-term presidential bid with his convention speech.


Nah. Hurricane Sandy, Gov Christie kissing Obama's ass, Romney being a multi-millionaire mormon, and Paul Ryan's hard stance on abortion is what rescued Obama.






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prplhze2000
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Nope. The data mining and micro marketing is what did it. That was just gravy.





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Jon Ham
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That too.





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prplhze2000
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amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics. I'm looking at the logistics while y'all look at the headline material.





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IceTiger
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He's wiser now than he was...his presidency lost congress for over a decade...

He did some boneheaded stuff in office






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Jon Ham
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I'm looking at the logistics while y'all look at the headline material.


To be fair, though, headlines and soundbites control perception and opinion these days. If Hurricane Sandy hadn't happened, had Romney been more relatable to the average voter, had Ryan not been so against abortion, then would the logistics have worked out for Obama? Maybe, but who knows. It's both a macro and micro game.



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Porky
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“Do not be self-congratulatory about how brave you for being for this” gun control push, he said. “The only brave people are the people who are going to lose their jobs if they vote with you.”

Clinton nailed it with this statement.






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