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Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)



This should be fun for baseball fans on the MSB, which I consider the best sports board on Tiger Droppings.

Rules:

1)You must pick one pitcher from each division in each league. Yes, this gives you six pitchers. To get around this, once you have picked your top 5 starters, you must then take your favorite closer from the 6th division. - for the sake of not being repetitive, should you forgo picking an AL east starter, Mariano Rivera is out of play as closer. He is to be left out of this list because 99% of us would agree that he is the best closer of the '00s and of all-time. So to give the list a little more personal feel, please exclude Mo!

2) You can only pick a person once, as in you can't pick '01 and '02 of the same player... you must take the year of said player which you consider the best.

3) You can not pick a player in a year in which they won the Cy Young award. This is the kicker and what makes this fun and more difficult. A little research is necessary, but some of these pitchers are going to jump out at you.

4) List the pitchers in the order you would have them in your rotation.

5) Each listing should look as follows
1. Name, year, team name, division, stats you would like to show to prove why he was picked

I am interested in seeing everyone's choices, and if there is enough response to the OP, we may be able to have a playoff to find the MSB's All 2000s Five-Man Rotation. You don't have to argue about why you selected each player, we can discuss that if this takes off and we need a playoff to determine the MSB's choices.

List of ineligible players

American League
2001 Roger Clemens New York Yankees
2002 Barry Zito Oakland Athletics
2003 Roy Halladay Toronto Blue Jays
2004 Johan Santana Minnesota Twins
2005 Bartolo Colón Los Angeles Angels
2006 Johan Santana Minnesota Twins
2007 C.C. Sabathia Cleveland Indians
2008 Cliff Lee Cleveland Indians
2009 Zack Greinke Kansas City Royals
2010 Félix Hernández Seattle Mariners
2011 Justin Verlander Detroit Tigers
2012 David Price Tampa Bay Rays

National League
2000 Randy Johnson Arizona Diamondbacks
2001 Randy Johnson Arizona Diamondbacks
2002 Randy Johnson Arizona Diamondbacks
2003 Éric Gagné Los Angeles Dodgers
2004 Roger Clemens Houston Astros
2005 Chris Carpenter St. Louis Cardinals
2006 Brandon Webb Arizona Diamondbacks
2007 Jake Peavy San Diego Padres
2008 Tim LincecumSan Francisco Giants
2009 Tim Lincecum San Francisco Giants
2010 Roy Halladay Philadelphia Phillies
2011 Clayton Kershaw Los Angeles Dodgers
2012 R.A. DickeyNew York Mets



Mine is as follows:

Starters

Curt Schilling, 2002, Arizona Diamondbacks, National League West
23-7; 259.1 IP; 35 GS; 10.97 K/9; 3.23 ERA; 2.40 FIP; 316 Ks; 9.7 WAR

Pedro Martinez, 2002, Boston Red Sox, American League East
20-4; 199.1 IP; 30 GS; 10.79 K/9; 2.26 ERA; 2.24 FIP; 239 Ks; 8.3 WAR

Roy Halladay, 2011, Philadelphia Phillies, National League East
19-6; 233.2 IP; 32 GS; 8.47 K/9; 2.35 ERA; 2.20 FIP; 220 Ks; 8.1 WAR

Mark Prior, 2003, Chicago Cubs, National League Central
18-6; 211.1 IP; 30 GS; 10.43 K/9; 2.43 ERA; 2.47 FIP; 245 Ks; 7.6 WAR

Felix Hernandez, 2009, Seattle Mariners, American League West
19-5; 238.2 IP; 34 GS; 8.18 K/9; 2.49 ERA; 3.09 FIP; 217 Ks; 6.8 WAR


Closer

Joe Nathan, 2004, Minnesota Twins, American League Central
44 Saves; 72.1 IP; 11.07 K/9; 1.62 ERA; 2.16 FIP; 89 Ks; 3.1 WAR


****** I will admit, I had a very difficult time deciding between my pitchers in the ALW and ALC

I could have very easily chosen 2012 Justin Verlander in place of 2009 Felix Hernandez, and chosen 2006 Francisco Rodriguez over 2004 Joe Nathan. I decided to go with Joe Nathan over K-Rod purely because of WAR, being that 2012 Verlander and 2009 Hernandez had identical WAR. I chose to use WAR as my placement value because as I completed my rotation in the order I would start them, it just so happened that they were in order from highest to lowest WAR.

I like WAR, but to me W-L is just as important as it ever was, so it helped in my decision that King Felix was 19-5 over Verlander's 17-8.

Here are my alternates numbers just for the record. We can call them honorable mention.

Justin Verlander, 2012, Detroit Tigers, American League Central
17-8; 238.1 IP; 33 GS; 9.03 K/9; 2.64 ERA; 2.94 FIP; 239 Ks; 6.8 WAR

Francisco Rodriguez, 2006, Anaheim Angels, American League West
47 Saves; 73 IP, 12.08 K/9; 1.73 ERA; 2.72 FIP; 98 Ks; 2.5 WAR







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Cosmo
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


This is too much work for a Monday morning.





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retooc
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


Tim Hudson should make this list.





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Bacciagaloop
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


quote:

Tim Hudson should make this list


Looked at him, I think from 2000, his strikeout numbers just didn't cut it for me.






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Bacciagaloop
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


bump- in case anyone from the evening shift gives a shite about baseball





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PurpleDrank18
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


dont have the time to check stats but a mid-2000 Roy O deserves a consideration





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Tiger1242
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re: Create an All 2000s Five-Man Rotation (non-Cy Young Award Winners)


that's a lot of work, but I'll give it a try just from the top of my head

Pedro Martinez, 2002 Boston Red Sox,
Justin Verlander 2012, Detroit Tigers,
Roger Clemens 2005, Astros (1.87 ERA )
Curt Schilling, 2002, Diamondbacks
Tim Hudson, 2003, A's



Eric Gagne, 2002


I dk if I followed the rules as far as divisions, that's to much for me to look into sorry, and copying and pasting stats takes forever






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