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diddydirtyAubie
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Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


It's not fair for poor kids to get free money, while other kids (who parents have money) get cut off at 18 and are on their own to pay for school. The kids are equally poor, but only one ends up in debt when graduating.






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Bryon Bojengles III
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


False





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fightin tigers
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


Don't claim your parents income. How hard is that?





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KosmoCramer
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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Don't claim your parents income. How hard is that?


Not health care then.

Poor kids get both.






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diddydirtyAubie
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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Don't claim your parents income. How hard is that?


impossible at 18.






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urinetrouble
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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It's not fair for poor kids to get free money, while other kids (who parents have money) get cut off at 18 and are on their own to pay for school. The kids are equally poor, but only one ends up in debt when graduating.


Kind of a moot point in Louisiana with TOPS.






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TulaneTigerFan
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


You can't do that until you hit 25 IIRC

eta: Maybe it was 23, IDK been a long time



This post was edited on 12/7 at 9:51 pm


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chipsanddip
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


absolutely





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Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?



Ridiculously over abused by the folks at SLCC and BRCC. Most of which blow the money at a bar and or pot. All of which will go on to get remedial jobs. Eliminate that program until we can balance a budget.






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HempHead
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


Agree. Eliminate federal student aid of all kind.

Easy and surefire credit to ANYONE WHO frickING APPLIES is a guaranteed way to create a misallocation of resources.

Cost of college vs real wages started making its momentous climb when the federal government started getting involved in the loan game.






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fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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impossible at 18.


Um, when did this change?

If you are truly independent then you get no income from them. Healthcare or otherwise.






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VABuckeye
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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eta: Maybe it was 23, IDK been a long time


It's 23. My income information had to be on my daughter's FAFSA for all four years of college. If she goes to grad school she can file the FAFSA based on her income alone and should qualify again for any grants that are available.

Under me she got nothing, nada, zip, zilch in aid.






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fightin tigers
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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Posted by TulaneTigerFan You can't do that until you hit 25 IIRC eta: Maybe it was 23, IDK been a long time


Guess I committed some fraud then.






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TulaneTigerFan
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


You may have :

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The federal government and the schools consider it primarily the family's responsibility to pay for school. They provide financial assistance only when the family is unable to pay. If a family just doesn't want to pay, that won't make a difference. Parents have a greater responsibility toward their children than the government or the schools. The US Department of Education has published guidance to financial aid administrators indicating that neither parent refusal to contribute to the student's education nor parent unwillingness to provide information on the student aid application or for verification is sufficient grounds for a dependency status override. This is true even if the parents do not claim the student as a dependent for income tax purposes or the student demonstrates total self-sufficiency. (See Dear Colleague Letter GEN-03-07 and page AVG-28 of the Application Verification Guide.)






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Northgate
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


Pell grant = food stamps = welfare





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TulaneTigerFan
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


I got about 6 years worth of pell grants





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mattz1122
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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Ridiculously over abused by the folks at SLCC and BRCC. Most of which blow the money at a bar and or pot. All of which will go on to get remedial jobs. Eliminate that program until we can balance a budget.



I agree. Stop giving free money to poor black folk.






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darryljames30
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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Message Posted by fightin tigers Don't claim your parents income. How hard is that?


You can't.






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lsunurse
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Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Dec 2005
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


I disagree. I was one of those "poor kids" who got them and I'm very grateful for them to help with my education. To clarify....I still had to take out student loans(which I'm still repaying) so it's not like you get THAT much. Back when I was in school I think I got maybe $2000 a year in pellgrants if even that.



So your "only one ends up in debt" is false. At least research before you start bitching.






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fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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re: Pell Grants should be eliminated. Agree or Disagree?


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You may have :


Wonder what the statute is on that shite. I remember filling it out and went in saying I had no way to get the info. Maybe shite has changed or they just fudged it.


I was full time employed if that mattered.






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