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The Supreme Court announced Friday that it will take up same-sex marriage, hearing both a case stemming from California’s Proposition 8 voter-approved ban on gay marriage and a case from New York challenging the constitutionality of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act.

The pair of moves greatly increase the chances that the justices will rule this term on whether the U.S. Constitution guarantees same-sex couples the right to marry. However, it’s still possible the high court could dispose of both cases without squarely addressing that central issue.

A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled 2-1 in February that the 2008 California ballot measure which banned gay marriage was unconstitutional because it stripped same-sex couples of a right to marry without adequate justification. The decision did not assert a right for gay couples to marry in states where such unions were never recognized.

The other case the justices agreed to take up stems from estate taxes owed by a New York woman after the death of her longtime, female partner, whom she married in Canada. In October, a panel of the the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit issued a 2-1 ruling that collecting such taxes from same-sex spouses but not from heterosexual married couples violated the U.S. Constitution.

Arguments are expected in the spring and decisions in the cases are likely by the end of the court’s term in June.

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Toddy, we differ on this issue some, but I know how important it is to you. We'll know this Summer.
Good Luck!






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beachdude
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Will Kagan recuse herself? She should.





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I love this quote from Obama. Like he gives two cents about state's rights. I am so sick of government.

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"We cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same-sex couples," President Obama said in explaining the change.






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I support gay marriage but I sure as hell don't want it to be implemented via a Supreme Court decision.





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Patrick O Rly
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Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think it should be something left up to the voter, especially when it harms no one.





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Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think it should be something left up to the voter, especially when it harms no one.


I would much prefer same sex marriage to be implemented via legislatures than by referendum or judicial action.






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Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think it should be something left up to the voter, especially when it harms no one.
What other issues are too important for the voters to decide? Why do you say that gay marriage harms no one? I'm sorry, but you don't know the effects of same sex marriage on children who grow up in homosexual households. We trust the voters to select the decision makers, but not to make the decisions. That requires a leap in logic that I just don't follow.

I guess when you can't count on 90% of black voters, and a majority of Latin American voters, to swing a vote in your direction they shouldn't have a voice in the decision. The patronization of blacks and other minority groups by so-called progressives fascinates me. They behave like battered women who keep going back to their abusers.






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Striking down DOMA should be a no-brainer. You can make a conservative argument against it: if the definition of marriage is up to the states, then the feds have to accept whatever each state decides.





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We have a progressive majority in the court that intends to leave a permanent mark on our society. This will be another case where the Federal Government will crush the rights of states.





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This is gay





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Federal Government will crush the rights of states.


That's exactly what DOMA is.

The proper decision from a states rights perspective would be to strike down DOMA and uphold Prop 8.






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tigertrax101
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This should not even be an issue. A man laying with a man is an abomination to God. Supreme Court should throw this worldly filth out of its court. Lord help this nation to fear you again!





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I would much prefer same sex marriage to be implemented via legislatures than by referendum or judicial action.


Agreed. But now almost 20% of the states have legal gay marriages that are not recognized by other states and the federal government. It's a constitutional crisis in the making. Who else would settle it but the SC?






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This should not even be an issue. A man laying with a man is an abomination to God. Supreme Court should throw this worldly filth out of its court. Lord help this nation to fear you again!

You for real? If you're serious you'd better seek professional help, and I don't mean from a preacher.






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Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think it should be something left up to the voter, especially when it harms no one.
What other issues are too important for the voters to decide? Why do you say that gay marriage harms no one? I'm sorry, but you don't know the effects of same sex marriage on children who grow up in homosexual households. We trust the voters to select the decision makers, but not to make the decisions. That requires a leap in logic that I just don't follow.

I guess when you can't count on 90% of black voters, and a majority of Latin American voters, to swing a vote in your direction they shouldn't have a voice in the decision. The patronization of blacks and other minority groups by so-called progressives fascinates me. They behave like battered women who keep going back to their abusers.









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I don't see how anyone who is conservative or supports states' rights at all can support DOMA.

Issues like this are the reason we have states. It's so that if you really, REALLY don't like gay marriage, you can just move to a state where it's not legal.

shite people, it's so simple.






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How did the country deal with slavery when it was legal in some states and illegal in others? I honestly believe that if State A allows homosexuals to marry and a couple legally married in State A moves to State B where homosexual marriage is not allowed that State B has to recognize the couple as married.

Any homosexual couple residing in State B desiring to get married could easily circumvent State B's laws by visiting State A for the purpose of getting married. It would be a minor inconvenience for any couples, but I'm sure they'd find a way to get to State A if they truly want to get married.

Of course, I'm a silly person and think the same sort of rules ought to apply to abortion, and the states should have the right to decide how they want to treat the issue. And then I'll hear the sob story of the poor girl who can't get transportation to a state in which she can get an abortion, so it isn't fair. Well life has never been fair, and it never will be as long as there is this little thing called diversity that I keep hearing nothing but praise for.






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Patrick O Rly
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I'm sorry, but you don't know the effects of same sex marriage on children who grow up in homosexual households.


What's preventing children from growing up in homosexual households now?

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We trust the voters to select the decision makers,


You do? I don't. They make shitty choices.

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but not to make the decisions.


What decisions are you referring to?

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That requires a leap in logic that I just don't follow.


It just requires you to be consistent. Are you for liberty or not?

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I guess when you can't count on 90% of black voters, and a majority of Latin American voters, to swing a vote in your direction they shouldn't have a voice in the decision.


I agree, both ways. Mob rule (Democracy) shouldn't determine your rights and what you would do with it.

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The patronization of blacks and other minority groups by so-called progressives fascinates me. They behave like battered women who keep going back to their abusers.


I agree.






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Toddy, we differ on this issue some, but I know how important it is to you. We'll know this Summer.



Shit's about to get real. The Prop 8 ruling was very narrow in scope and only pertained to California's unique situation (taking away gay marriage rights after they had already been granted). Ted Olson and David Boie said today that they will ask the SCOTUS to make a broader ruling encompassing the whole nation.

I definitely think the DOMA ruling will be in our favor, but I'm very worried about the Prop 8 case. Kennedy is the swing vote IMO.






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