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| Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:02 am)
Now that we have government mandated healthcare and going to the utopia of "single payer" we are going to see the dividing of minorities - women vs. bi/gay men.
When AIDS was first noticed there was a call by some healthcare officials that the government needed to quarantine gay men that had it for the health and safety of others. Gay rights activists fought this with the claim that it was a violation of their rights.
With Obamacare came government mandate that has been upheld by the Supreme Court. Part of the mandate of this government system has trampled over the First Amendment rights of Christians in that they must provide birth control and abortifacients. The only exemption is for churches . Church institutions such as schools, hospitals and various charities have been mandated to provide this under the new law. LGBT activists celebrate this mandate claiming its a womens healthcare rights issue that trumps peoples religious rights.
Well, if my religious rights are trumped then be prepared for your "privacy rights" to be trumped as well as a healthcare right. That is a right to know who has an incurable disease that can easily be prevented.
HIV continues to spread with men that have sex with other men at the same rate that it did in the 1980's. One in five bi/gay men has HIV with at least 25% not knowing they have it. As I've noted on here that barebacking has become not only acceptable but a "right" that more and more bi/gay men are claiming they have.
The problem though now is that many of those bi/gay men that are doing this are black and hispanic on the D.L. They then spread HIV to their girlfriends and wives.
There is a seething anger in some of those minority women who have contracted HIV from their bi husband and they are a growing force that want other women to be protected from getting HIV (as well as other diseases such as herpes, HPV, etc).
Along with them come many doctors as well as government officials seeing there are behavioral issues with gay men because of the much higher rates all STD's that exist in the bi/gay male population compared to the rest of the population.
With the new healthcare mandates and the push of "preventative healthcare" along with the UN's "AIDS Free Generation" that Obama is promoting, then we can most assuredly have that happen.
Funny thing is, all those LGBT people who have just been in love with Obama are going to quickly turn on him and the dems. It ain't going to be pretty to see all those white racists that are Toddy's friends going against the black woman that contracted HIV, but that's what is going to happen. In the 1980's the LGBT activist blocked mandated testing and all that goes along with such because it was a civil right. The day Obamacare with its mandates was upheld was the same day all those "civil rights" were abolished.
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KeyserSoze999
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:11 am to los angeles tiger)
I heard they have some specialist facilities in Iraq that know how to deal with the gheys, getting them healed and all.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:20 am to KeyserSoze999)
There are about 30% of gay men that are conservative and many of them have said exactly what I've written. You just don't hear it or read about it yet.
Read the CDC reports about STD's as well as HIV in gay men. There isn't a cure for many of those STD's and new strains of some that were once curable are now drug resistant. I remember all the people that died in the 80's and the crying that the government must do something to give us a cure and stop the dying. Well, there is something but the government then couldn't enact it because such a mandate would have violated civil rights. Now such civil rights no longer exist because Obamacare has been upheld. I don't like government mandated healthcare but hey, that's what happens when you healthcare becomes a right for all provided by the government.
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CajunAngele
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:28 am to los angeles tiger)
I was just going to say; that by the time everyone figures out what Obama is about, all around it will be too late. But his supporters know what he is about and still support him. 
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:33 am to CajunAngele)
About 30% of gay men did not vote for Obama and are conservatives. Of course, they are called "self-loathers" by the oh so tolerant lefties.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:33 am to los angeles tiger)
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There isn't a cure for many of those STD's and new strains of some that were once curable are now drug resistant.
Outside of the herp, hiv and genital warts, what is not curable?
There is a plague of chlamadyia going on in denver right now. Its like 40% of the population under 30 has had it. Z pack fixes it right up.
And to mandatory testing, I doubt it will happen. If it does, I personally won't be upset. But you know, I can see why others would be. Especially older americans.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:35 am to los angeles tiger)
Logcabin Repubs, just alot of hate for those people. 
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:37 am to los angeles tiger)
Are blood tests a bad thing? I get full panels about twice a year and didn't know I was being oppressed?
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:38 am to buddhavista)
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Outside of the herp, hiv and genital warts, what is not curable?
Strains of the two old S&G. There's also lots and lots of parasites and as well as some bacterial diseases becoming drug resistant (staph infections) that are much, much more common in gay men.
If the government can mandate testing it also has complete power to quarantine as well as make those that test positive as carriers of diseases to be "marked" so others will know.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:40 am to los angeles tiger)
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Strains of the two old S&G
I don't know what that is.
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If the government can mandate testing it also has complete power to quarantine as well as make those that test positive as carriers of diseases to be "marked" so others will know.
yes, it is possible that occurs but I doubt it happens. Maybe under a different president but I don't see obama going that far. I hope I am right on this, b.c obviously that would be terrible if it did happen.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:41 am to los angeles tiger)
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If the government can mandate testing it also has complete power to quarantine as well as make those that test positive as carriers of diseases to be "marked" so others will know.
How does that follow?
The government already has the power to quarantine.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:43 am to los angeles tiger)
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Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's
I'm sorry, I missed the part of the law that requires mandatory testing. Can you point it out to me? TIA
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:45 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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Are blood tests a bad thing? I get full panels about twice a year and didn't know I was being oppressed?
You know my history about some of the b.s. of lgbt activist and the fools like Toddy. It's impossible to claim that there are rights to privacy and that government cannot mandate testing and quarantining (what gay activist opposed in the 80's) to also claim government can mandate that others (church institutions such as schools, hospitals and charities) must provide birth control and abortifacients claiming it is a part of healthcare and healthcare is a civil right.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:09 am to VOR)
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I'm sorry, I missed the part of the law that requires mandatory testing. Can you point it out to me? TIA
It's in there with mandatory provision of birth control. You don't see it because you choose not to. If the government can mandate that Church institutions must provide birth control (I know you claim they don't do so because government is mandating their insurance companies must provide it for free because you are a lying sack of shite lawyer that plays those games. Don't forget, we had to pass it first to see what is in it. No time frame was given on how long we would be passing this piece of shite. Of course, all goverment programs never really pass, they are like cancer cells. Start off small but grow and grow until they kill the host.
Carrollton, I know they've always had the power to quarantine but HIV/AIDs wasn't quarantined (and many argue should have been and still should be because it would prevent the continual spread). I got into heated arguments with gay rights lawyers who claimed that quarantines would have been a violation of LGBT peoples civil rights. The very same lawyers now claim that Catholic schools have no such rights and must provide birth control. They claim that we have separation of church and state that gives government the power to mandate that those church schools aren't churches so government can mandate they provide birth control. They then go on to claim that those church schools and charities are right wing extremist that want government to violate the separation clause when they want their schools and charities to be exempt from providing birth control for their female employees.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:11 am to los angeles tiger)
Forward!
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:12 am to los angeles tiger)
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Carrollton, I know they've always had the power to quarantine but HIV/AIDs wasn't quarantined (and many argue should have been and still should be because it would prevent the continual spread).
How much of that decision was political how much medical I have no idea.
I'd personally come down more on the side of safety than privacy when it comes to communicable diseases.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:13 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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I get full panels about twice a year and didn't know I was being oppressed?
Damn. I get them once every 5 years and my wife does them for free. I just hate needles.
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:30 am to buddhavista)
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Outside of the herp, hiv and genital warts, what is not curable?
HPV, to an extent. Something like 90 percent of sexually active people have it in some form. You hear about vaccines for the four strains known to cause cervical cancer, but there are about 180 strains in existence.
They can treat it, but they can't make it completely go away.
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buddhavista
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:34 am to Queen)
Aren't HPV and warts the same thing?
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| re: Obamacare will mandate testing of everyone for HIV and other STD's (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:56 am to buddhavista)
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Aren't HPV and warts the same thing?
Nope. HPV (the majority of the time) has zero symptoms in men, and affects women differently depending on the strain.
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