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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:49 am)
Who are these teams and how do they qualify, etc? thanks.. PS --> also heard this will be the first fifa competition where goal line technology will be used. One site will use something called "goal wrap" and the other site will use infrared. I think this is long overdue. Your thoughts on this?
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WarSlamEagle  Washington Fan Golden State Warriors Fan Member since Sep 2011 12361 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:58 am to The Mick)
Winners of the six Champions Leagues (UEFA, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, CAF, AFC, and OFC) and a host team (winner of the host nation's top league) play each other. UEFA and CONMEBOL champs have a bye to the semis. This year, the teams are: Chelsea Corinthians Uhlsan Hyundai Al-Ahly Monterrey Auckland City Sanfrecce Hiroshima (host) The host team plays the OFC representative (Auckland City) in a play-in game.
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:02 am to WarSlamEagle)
Ahh okay... Thats pretty awesome tbh. I assume Chelsea will be heavily favored to win it?
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WarSlamEagle  Washington Fan Golden State Warriors Fan Member since Sep 2011 12361 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:04 am to The Mick)
Out of that lineup, yep. But the CONMEBOL champs have upset the UEFA champs a couple of times in the final. Chelsea won't (and shouldn't) sleepwalk through this. More money and worldwide exposure, even if it isn't a "famous" trophy like the CL they won to get there.
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Bho  Kentucky Fan In DB10_AFC's Head Member since Dec 2007 20824 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:08 am to The Mick)
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PS --> also heard this will be the first fifa competition where goal line technology will be used. One site will use something called "goal wrap" and the other site will use infrared. I think this is long overdue. Your thoughts on this?
From what I understand, it will be used, but have no effect on the game. It's just a test.
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lesismeaurx  USA Fan datdirtydirty Member since Dec 2011 606 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:36 am to Bho)
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From what I understand, it will be used, but have no effect on the game. It's just a test.
Bingo
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:50 am to lesismeaurx)
The way I read it, it is officially being used in these matches.
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"Tomorrow will be the first time that goal-line technology will be officially used in a game,'' FIFA secretary-general Jerome Valcke said Wednesday. "The tests are done; and the installation tests were successful.'
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Two stadia are being used. The camera-based Hawk-Eye system will be installed at Toyota and the magnetic field GoalRef competitor in Yokohama. Fans, both live in the stadia and watching on television, will not be aware of how either responds. In the unlikely event of either being needed to resolve an over-the-line dispute a signal will have been transmitted virtually instantaneously to the referee. The referee, as supreme arbiter of events of the pitch, also has the right to overrule the technology is he believes that – from his personal view – he knows better. Confirmation of the technology competition came from FIFA president Sepp Blatter last week in Brazil, talking about refereeing preparations for Brazil. He said: “The two systems have been not only improved but approved by the International Board and we will start [using them] at the FIFA Club World Cup . . . One of them will be chosen by the organising committee and will be used in the Confederations Cup.” Note his words: Not both but “one of them.”
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Bho  Kentucky Fan In DB10_AFC's Head Member since Dec 2007 20824 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:07 pm to The Mick)
So after reading more, it seems they are testing two different companies. If the ref can overrule the technology, what is the point? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:10 pm to Bho)
Im guessing if its a blatant malfunction the ref would overrule but Id hate to be the ref that disallows/allows a goal when the damn light goes off or whatever..... I like the technology myself and Im glad its being instituted.
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BobLoblaw  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2011 2002 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:11 pm to Bho)
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So after reading more, it seems they are testing two different companies. If the ref can overrule the technology, what is the point? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
The point is to test the technology out. Of course the ref can over rule it, FIFA has not re-written their guidelines yet to allow for technology. It's been a long and drawn out process for FIFA to finally come around on tech, so to me the fact that they are even testing it is a clear step in the right direction.
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Bho  Kentucky Fan In DB10_AFC's Head Member since Dec 2007 20824 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:41 pm to BobLoblaw)
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The point is to test the technology out.
I'm sure it has been tested. The Hawk-Eye has been used in tennis and is a proven name. I understand if it malfunctions and says goal on his watch and the ball is nowhere near, then ok. But if it's close, they better side with the technology or there is no use in implementing it.
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:50 pm to Bho)
Im wondering how the goalref one can tell if the entire ball crossed the line (there's a chip inside the ball itself)
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joey barton TBD Fan Member since Feb 2011 5531 posts
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| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:55 pm to The Mick)
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By measuring and analysing changes in the magnetic field around the goal, it is possible to determine whether the ball has completely crossed the line. The data is processed using software developed by Fraunhofer IIS, yielding a clear, accurate result that removes any doubt about whether a goal has been scored.
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The Mick  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2010 14867 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm to joey barton)
Ahh of course, the ole magnetic field.
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Harry Pitts  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Jul 2011 584 posts

| re: What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time) (Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:24 pm to The Mick)
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The referee, as supreme arbiter of events of the pitch, also has the right to overrule the technology is he believes that – from his personal view – he knows better.
This could never happen, could it?
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