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What is the fifa club world cup? (+ goal line technology used for first time)

Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:49 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:49 am
Who are these teams and how do they qualify, etc?

thanks..


PS --> also heard this will be the first fifa competition where goal line technology will be used. One site will use something called "goal wrap" and the other site will use infrared. I think this is long overdue. Your thoughts on this?
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:56 am
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:58 am to
Winners of the six Champions Leagues (UEFA, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, CAF, AFC, and OFC) and a host team (winner of the host nation's top league) play each other. UEFA and CONMEBOL champs have a bye to the semis.

This year, the teams are:
Chelsea
Corinthians
Uhlsan Hyundai
Al-Ahly
Monterrey
Auckland City
Sanfrecce Hiroshima (host)

The host team plays the OFC representative (Auckland City) in a play-in game.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:02 am to
Ahh okay...

Thats pretty awesome tbh. I assume Chelsea will be heavily favored to win it?
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:04 am to
Out of that lineup, yep.

But the CONMEBOL champs have upset the UEFA champs a couple of times in the final. Chelsea won't (and shouldn't) sleepwalk through this. More money and worldwide exposure, even if it isn't a "famous" trophy like the CL they won to get there.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:08 am to
quote:

PS --> also heard this will be the first fifa competition where goal line technology will be used. One site will use something called "goal wrap" and the other site will use infrared. I think this is long overdue. Your thoughts on this?



From what I understand, it will be used, but have no effect on the game. It's just a test.
Posted by lesismeaurx
datdirtydirty
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:36 am to
quote:

From what I understand, it will be used, but have no effect on the game. It's just a test.


Bingo
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:50 am to
The way I read it, it is officially being used in these matches.
quote:

"Tomorrow will be the first time that goal-line technology will be officially used in a game,'' FIFA secretary-general Jerome Valcke said Wednesday. "The tests are done; and the installation tests were successful.'

LINK

quote:

Two stadia are being used. The camera-based Hawk-Eye system will be installed at Toyota and the magnetic field GoalRef competitor in Yokohama.

Fans, both live in the stadia and watching on television, will not be aware of how either responds. In the unlikely event of either being needed to resolve an over-the-line dispute a signal will have been transmitted virtually instantaneously to the referee.

The referee, as supreme arbiter of events of the pitch, also has the right to overrule the technology is he believes that – from his personal view – he knows better.

Confirmation of the technology competition came from FIFA president Sepp Blatter last week in Brazil, talking about refereeing preparations for Brazil.

He said: “The two systems have been not only improved but approved by the International Board and we will start [using them] at the FIFA Club World Cup . . . One of them will be chosen by the organising committee and will be used in the Confederations Cup.”

Note his words: Not both but “one of them.”
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:07 pm to
So after reading more, it seems they are testing two different companies. If the ref can overrule the technology, what is the point? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:10 pm to
Im guessing if its a blatant malfunction the ref would overrule but Id hate to be the ref that disallows/allows a goal when the damn light goes off or whatever.....

I like the technology myself and Im glad its being instituted.

Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

So after reading more, it seems they are testing two different companies. If the ref can overrule the technology, what is the point? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.


The point is to test the technology out. Of course the ref can over rule it, FIFA has not re-written their guidelines yet to allow for technology. It's been a long and drawn out process for FIFA to finally come around on tech, so to me the fact that they are even testing it is a clear step in the right direction.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

The point is to test the technology out.


I'm sure it has been tested. The Hawk-Eye has been used in tennis and is a proven name. I understand if it malfunctions and says goal on his watch and the ball is nowhere near, then ok. But if it's close, they better side with the technology or there is no use in implementing it.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:50 pm to
Im wondering how the goalref one can tell if the entire ball crossed the line (there's a chip inside the ball itself)
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

By measuring and analysing changes in the magnetic field around the goal, it is possible to determine whether the ball has completely crossed the line. The data is processed using software developed by Fraunhofer IIS, yielding a clear, accurate result that removes any doubt about whether a goal has been scored.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm to
Ahh of course, the ole magnetic field.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

The referee, as supreme arbiter of events of the pitch, also has the right to overrule the technology is he believes that – from his personal view – he knows better.


This could never happen, could it?
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