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joshnorris14 
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| Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:28 am)
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When discussing the ways of the future, keep this in mind.
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mograyback 
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:50 pm to joshnorris14)
This guy is a thinker, he probably won't sit well with many of the posters on this site.. but this is actually good stuff.
I liked when he used the slavery analogy.
The last minute of this got a little hairy, but otherwise a solid point.
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mograyback
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:11 pm to mograyback)
I find it hilarious that this topic isn't touched.
Yet, the bash the mole threads are hot topics. People want to get into the same partisan arguments everyday...
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:12 pm to mograyback)
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mograyback
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:13 pm to DapperDan)
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.and he is 20 times smarter than you.
Could even be 30 or 40 times smarter.. it's hard to quantify.
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IceTiger 
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:18 pm to mograyback)
We've actually covered this topic many times...there are inherent flaws involving power and man that it does not address, but the way shite is shaking down, I'd be willing to give it a swing...
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mograyback
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:20 pm to IceTiger)
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there are inherent flaws
I agree, it does seem impossible.
I think that's why I liked the slavery analogy so much..
His suggestion isn't supposed to fit nicely into your head, there should be flaws. Just like the elimination of slave labor would make no sense to someone in the 1700s. They couldn't even fathom a machine that picked cotton. They couldn't imagine that less than 5% of people would be farmers instead of closer to 90%.
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:39 pm to joshnorris14)
Good link, Josh, thanks. My only critique would be the practicality of national defense. If the geographical US were a totally free stateless society and Mexico was an aggressive communist state that was bordering on starvation, they would invade. It would be horrible.
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mograyback
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:43 pm to Zach)
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My only critique would be the practicality of national defense. If the geographical US were a totally free stateless society and Mexico was an aggressive communist state that was bordering on starvation, they would invade. It would be horrible.
You're the guy in the 19th century trying to understand how 21st century health care will deal with the polio problem.
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Gmorgan4982
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:48 pm to joshnorris14)
He seems to be giving up on using logic with statists in his latest videos. I've listened to most of his latest series titled, "The Fascists Surrounding You" or something like that. Molyneux argues that there are a number of people who are psychopaths and are beyond help.
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Zach
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:50 pm to mograyback)
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You're the guy in the 19th century trying to understand how 21st century health care will deal with the polio problem.
Ah, so we'll figure out a way to stop Mexicans? Yep, we're doing a good job with that. Yep.
Edit: BTW... I had typhoid. Horrible stuff. Almost died. And it was in the 20th Century.
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Diamondawg 
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:54 pm to mograyback)
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I agree, it does seem impossible.
I think that's why I liked the slavery analogy so much..
His suggestion isn't supposed to fit nicely into your head, there should be flaws. Just like the elimination of slave labor would make no sense to someone in the 1700s. They couldn't even fathom a machine that picked cotton. They couldn't imagine that less than 5% of people would be farmers instead of closer to 90%.
Weren't you dogging someone on their sentence structure/writing skills just the other night?
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mograyback
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| re: Beautiful Freedom (Posted on 12/7/12 at 6:05 pm to Zach)
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Ah, so we'll figure out a way to stop Mexicans? Yep, we're doing a good job with that. Yep.
"So we'll figure out a way to stop polio? Yep, we're doing a good job of that. Yep." - says the ignorant guy in the 1700s.
You said you agreed with the link, yet you're not grasping fundamental aspects of it... which is odd.
The reason he gave the slavery analogy was to get a point across that would hopefully resonate with the listeners. In the 1700s a farmer could not even grasp the notion of a giant machine picking it's cotton. If you told him that only 5% of people would farm as opposed to 90%, he wouldn't know what to think.. the point is you can't really apply today's framework into this type of forward thinking. I don't really think the speaker is talking about the U.S being the only country without a government, this would be a species wide awakening and elevation of consciousness.
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