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HailHailtoMichigan!  Michigan Fan Mission Viejo, CA Member since Mar 2012 5176 posts

| A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:14 pm)
1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No 2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No 3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped. 4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree 5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference. 6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
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GumboPot  LSU Fan Saints Fan Member since Mar 2009 17347 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No
Yes, only for securing trading lanes.
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2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No
No.
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3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped.
Lean more toward "a.".
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4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree
Disagree.
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5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference.
Easy, "b." by a mile.
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6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
Mostly "b.".
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ClydeFrog  Oklahoma Fan OK Member since Jul 2012 1269 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. A 2. B 3. A (should be the default setting except when something especially unfortunate happens) 4. A 5. B 6. B
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7665 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. A. 2. B. 3. B. 4. B. 5. A. 6. B.
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Gmorgan4982  LSU Fan Hattiesburg, Miss. Member since May 2005 89842 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. Uh... Using military force to maintain order is like using stabbing to stop violence. 2. Screw the UN 3. I'm single 4. It's relative 5. b 6. a
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Gladius Veritas  Arkansas Fan North Little Rock, Arkansas Member since May 2012 5596 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. A 2. B 3. B 4. B 5. A 6. B
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7665 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:29 pm to Gladius Veritas)

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kingbob  LSU Fan St. Amant, LA Member since Nov 2010 8976 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? 2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? 3. Isolationism vs Engagement 4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. 5. Which is more important? 6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control.
1. We shouldn't have to police the world. However, If we are treatened, intervention is on the table. Also, if a country comes to us for help, we should consider coming to their aid. 2. No, the UN is meaningless. 3. I don't advocate for intervening militarily in other countries' affairs, but I would still maintain diplomatic relationships with all countries and offer free trade to all nations. 4. I believe in American Exceptionalism, Manifest Destiny, and the American Dream, that upwards social mobility can be achieved through hard work and persistence. 5. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference. This with exceptions. Your rights should not interfere with anyone else's rights. If you trample on anyone's rights, the legal system and the tort system should be able to rectify the situation amply and justly. 6. Disagree, success is a combination of luck, talent, hard work, and persistence. The luck and natural talent is out of our control, but the hard work and persistence that can lead to the development of that talent is entirely on us. In this day and age, there are enough opportunities that anyone with around average intelligence can, through hard work and persistence and good decision making (graduate from high school, don't have kids until you're ready, ect), can be moderately successful and live a good life.
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Bard  LA-Monroe Fan BR Member since Oct 2008 12796 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 12:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. Yes. 2. No. 3. B, but only for close allies that truly need assistance 4. Ridiculous question that doesn't have an actual answer, especially within the narrow confines you've set. 5. B. Freedom is the foundation of any truly beneficial governing system. Without that, A becomes tyranny. 6. See #4.
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blueboy  LSU Fan between here and there Member since Apr 2006 14365 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 12:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No
Yes, especially when the "order" that is threatened is the safety of our own people but also in circumstances where any sane person can see that what is taking place is an atrocity (Rwanda and Somalia, for example).
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2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No
No. The UN, though well-intentioned, has proven to be ineffective, counter-productive and in many cases, corrupt.
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3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped.
Mixture of both, based on the above criteria. Man, you could have rolled 1-3 into one question.
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4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree
A. There has never been a better vehicle for a person to realize self-determination than there is in the United States. That's why so many people want to live here.
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5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference.
Invalid question. No mechanism can insure that there will never be people in need, and state-granted entitlements only serve to cultivate poverty and misery while destroying the system that enables an escape therefrom.
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6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
B. There are certainly twists of fate that can defeat an industrious or exceptional individual, but overwhelmingly, success is dependent upon the choices and abilities of the person.
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SoulGlo  LSU Fan Shinin' Through Member since Dec 2011 1986 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:54 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1 yes 2 frick the UN 3 a 4 constitution, yes. culture? That's entirely debatable. DNA-wise, we're no different than anyone on the planet. We've been so successful because of our freedom. We've thrown it in the trash, though. 5 b 6 b
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NC_Tigah  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2003 40104 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 5:41 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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A couple of questions for the poliboard community. 1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No 2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No 3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped. 4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree 5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference. 6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
7. We are not the world's police force. a. Agree b. Disagree
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23973 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 6:23 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world?
Hmm. vague. Knee jerk reaction is "no" but, that's because I'm taking "maintain order" to be a pretty expansive concept. But, I would say "yes", sometimes military is needed. Define "maintain order" better.
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2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats?
No. Because "international threats" are never threats to EVERYONE. Needing U.N. approval basically creates paralysis.
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3. Isolationism vs Engagement
A. Let nationed deal with their own shite.
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4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others.
Our culture is most certainly superior to some other cultures in the world. This is only debatable if one resides in an ivory tower. Everyone rational can see the reality.
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5. Which is more important?
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control.
Disagree. For a TINY sliver of people at both ends, success/failure is practically predestined. For the other 98%, you are largely the sum of your choices.
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SpartyGator  Florida Fan Member since Oct 2011 12869 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 6:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. A (but we need to do less of this, cannot be policemen of the whole world.) 2. B. 3. B (but like Q1, we need to be limited in our roles abroad) 4. B. (I love a lot of things re: culture, but at times there are elements of our population that make me sick) 5. B 6. B.
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Patrick O Rly  New Orleans Saints Fan y u do dis? Member since Aug 2011 25570 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 6:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No
I wouldn't say it brings order, but it's sometimes necessary.
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2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No
They can eat dicks.
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3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped.
B, although I don't like the moniker of "isolationist." I would be conducting trade with those countries.
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4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree
While I do think some cultures are superior to others, I can't unilaterally say American culture is superior. Is Texas culture like Connecticut?
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5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference.
B, because I believe B will address A.
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6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
Depends on what your goals are. If you have none, I'd imagine you'd be really successful, and nothing could stop you.
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catholictigerfan  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2009 26380 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 7:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. B 2. B 3. mostly a but sometimes b 4. B 5. A (but state should only help those in extreme necessity) 6. Kinda A its a mix I believe
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44012 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
Six is not a couple.
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JEAUXBLEAUX  LSU Fan Bayonne, NJ Member since May 2006 38497 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:09 am to CarrolltonTiger)
Beyond a couple straight through few up to several
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 18845 posts
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| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes b. No
Time to stop being World Police...it hasn't worked.
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2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? a. yes b. No
No.
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3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. b. Other countries should be helped.
False choices...we should remain diplomatically and economically engaged with the world. We do not need to be militarily engaged.....close bases.
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4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree b. Disagree
Superior political system in general...culture? It's relative.
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5. Which is more important? a. State ensures nobody is in need. b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference.
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6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. a. Agree b. Disagree.
To simplistic...you control some while others are beyond your control, birth for example.
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Cold Pizza  Ohio State Fan Member since Sep 2011 7639 posts

| re: A couple of questions for the poliboard community. (Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
1. Is it sometimes necessary to use military force to maintain order in the world? a. Yes, when that order directly benefits the USA. 2. Should there have to be UN approval before using military force to deal with international threats? b. No, frick no. 3. Isolationism vs Engagement a. Let each country deal with its own problems. And when they make their problems our problems we nuke the frick out of all parties involved. 4. Our people are not perfect, but our culture is superior to others. a. Agree, but we won't force it on them. Let them figure it out themselves. 5. Which is more important? b. Freedom to pursue own goals in life without interference. 6. Success in life is largely determined by factors outside of our control. b. Disagree.
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