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Chimlim  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Jul 2005 10417 posts

| Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:12 pm)
He says if Congress does nothing, then the Bush tax cuts will expire for everyone, middle class included. If Obama really doesn't want to tax the middle class, can't he just bypass Congress and ensure the Bush tax cuts will not expire for the middle class?
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 13392 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:13 pm to Chimlim)
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If Obama really doesn't want to tax the middle class, can't he just bypass Congress and ensure the Bush tax cuts will not expire for the middle class?
No he can't...
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41312 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:15 pm to Chimlim)
No. but he will likely let the Bush tax cuts expire and on January 2, propose middle class tax cuts which are precisely the same as the Bush tax cuts, maybe even bigger, but without the tax cuts for the rich. That's what I would do. Make the GOP vote against a tax cut.
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 11072 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:29 pm to Baloo)
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let the Bush tax cuts expire and on January 2, propose middle class tax cuts which are precisely the same as the Bush tax cuts, maybe even bigger, but without the tax cuts for the rich. That's what I would do. Make the GOP vote against a tax cut.
If I were the GOP, I'd kill that bill in committee an never let it get to the floor, and therefore never have to vote against it. Your move... 
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TrueTiger  LSU Fan Republic of West Florida Member since Sep 2004 3147 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:41 pm to Baloo)
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propose middle class tax cuts which are precisely the same as the Bush tax cuts,
This might be the end game. And if Obama invites them to reduce middle class rates the repubs should do it in a way to make the current rates the default rates for middle and upper income (just like they are now or even less) but for one year put in an increase for upper income folks only that will sunset next year unless renewed. So Obama will get his lower middle rate and a higher rate for the upper but its only temporary. This way the current rates get cemented in and next year doing nothing means the increases expire instead of the current situation where the decreased rates expire. Next year congress would have a stronger hand.
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MoreOrLes  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2008 14991 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:46 pm to Chimlim)
NEWSFLASH O has alway wanted to tax the middle class. the upper class the low class the no class the elite class and any other class. Where do you think he gets the money from that he spends?
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 9181 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:48 pm to Chimlim)
Wait Obamacare never happened? If that's not a tax on the middle and lower class I don't know what is?
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Baloo  LSU Fan Formerly MDGeaux Member since Sep 2003 41312 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
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If I were the GOP, I'd kill that bill in committee an never let it get to the floor, and therefore never have to vote against it.
go to the American people and tell them you've proposed a tax cut and the Congress killed it. Worse yet, they refused to even vote on it. Call a press conference every day they refuse to vote on it and let it out of committee. Your move. 
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WildTchoupitoulas Member since Jan 2010 11072 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 4:43 pm to Baloo)
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go to the American people and tell them you've proposed a tax cut and the Congress killed it. Worse yet, they refused to even vote on it. Call a press conference every day they refuse to vote on it and let it out of committee.
That's when MY budget bill, that cuts taxes on EVERYBODY, goes to the Senate only to have them kill it in committee. Besides, the American People are busy watching the Super Bowl Godaddy.com ads, would you mind...? (And while you're up, would you grab another bag of Scoops? kthx) STALEMATE!
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NC_Tigah  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2003 40686 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 5:00 pm to WildTchoupitoulas)
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STALEMATE!

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CC  LSU Fan Member since Feb 2004 13334 posts

| re: Can't Obama ensure the middle class doesn't get taxed? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 5:12 pm to Chimlim)
Since the Dems have successfully painted the GOP into a lose/lose corner, the GOP has nothing more to lose by doing the right thing and telling Barry to frick off.
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