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re: Reality Check: 3 SEC teams won 11 games, 6 SEC teams won 10 games
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:44 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:44 am to theunknownknight
quote:
Every team deals with injuries etc. You must think the other 5 SEC teams are playing some RPG game where they are wearing helmets with injury immunity
Dumbest post ever. NO other team dealt with the significant losses Lsu encountered and it's not even close.
would be the same as bama losing: fluker, Cyrus k, steen, lacy, milliner, cj mosley, and nico Johnson for the season. Tell me how good bama would be without all those key pieces.
Lsu proved it's depth this season and les proved his elite status by winning 11 games and finishing top 5 (after we win the bowl game) even with these key players out.
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:08 am to MStant1
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Did everyone catch this? Only 18 out of 120 have 10+ wins this year. 18. Good God some of you are idiotic. So 85% of college football didn't make a 10+ win season that some of you seem to think is so easy now with extra games. Obviously 85% of CFB doesn't find 10 wins so easy.
18 NOW. With 13 other 9 win teams NOW.
All with at LEAST one more game to play. There is a chance we could have close to 25% of college football teams at 10 wins. A FOURTH of all the teams.
As opposed to NINE PERCENT in 1992.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:26 am to theunknownknight
Actually looking back at records from the 90's, statistically speaking regarding the percentage occurrence in NCAAF, the chance of a 10 win season today ~ an 8 win season then.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:47 am to theunknownknight
Your stats speak to the level of talent in the SEC, so yeah, 10 win season does matter.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:52 am to joeytiger
quote:
Your stats speak to the level of talent in the SEC, so yeah, 10 win season does matter.
It "matters" as much as an 8 win team in the early nineties (see post above). Good, but not great.
Why is it so difficult accept that?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:14 pm to theunknownknight
you're reaching.
Think in numbers, percent, schedule etc.
To post 8 = 10 of the 90's is a long reach.
8-4
vs
10-2
we are talking about right now.
Think about a little.
Think in numbers, percent, schedule etc.
To post 8 = 10 of the 90's is a long reach.
8-4
vs
10-2
we are talking about right now.
Think about a little.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:16 pm to theunknownknight
You also aren't factoring in that they only played 11 games then, not 12 like they do today. Big differnce.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:26 pm to tigger1
quote:
To post 8 = 10 of the 90's is a long reach.
Uh, no it's not. About 26% of the teams won 8 games in the early nineties. This season will have close to 25% of college football with 10 wins.
The reality is 10 wins in today's NCAAF <<< 10 wins back then.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 11/27/12 at 12:27 pm to PurpleAndGold86
quote:
You also aren't factoring in that they only played 11 games then, not 12 like they do today. Big differnce.
Well no. That's part of my point. That extra game is a rent-a-win.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:06 pm to theunknownknight
Only 18 teams this year have 10+ wins and that is of over 120 teams.
Right at 13.3%
It is really interesting when you go back and fine it is the same teams year in and out at those 9-10-11 etc win marks.
Right at 13.3%
It is really interesting when you go back and fine it is the same teams year in and out at those 9-10-11 etc win marks.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:19 pm to tigger1
In 1993 12 teams had 10+ wins of 105 for 11.4%
I can do every year if needed, you will find the 25-6% total is not there to be found.
Both for 10+ wins a year now vs the 90's 8.
BTW teams with 8 wins for 1993 are 10 for 9.52%.
I can do every year if needed, you will find the 25-6% total is not there to be found.
Both for 10+ wins a year now vs the 90's 8.
BTW teams with 8 wins for 1993 are 10 for 9.52%.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/27/12 at 6:06 pm to theunknownknight
10 win seasons are nice but not nearly as meaningful as they once were.
You play 12 regular season games now, historically teams played 10 for a few decades and then later 11 for a few decades.
Also, there are conference championship games now and a TON of bowls. Historically there were like 5-10 bowl games a year, making one was a huge accomplishment, now a 6-6 scrub team can make it.
So you got 12-14 games to win 10, most teams schedule 1-3 utter cream puff non-conference opponnents.
When you really look at it, 10 wins says you're a pretty good team, whereas it used to say you were an elite team.
You play 12 regular season games now, historically teams played 10 for a few decades and then later 11 for a few decades.
Also, there are conference championship games now and a TON of bowls. Historically there were like 5-10 bowl games a year, making one was a huge accomplishment, now a 6-6 scrub team can make it.
So you got 12-14 games to win 10, most teams schedule 1-3 utter cream puff non-conference opponnents.
When you really look at it, 10 wins says you're a pretty good team, whereas it used to say you were an elite team.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 6:53 pm to IAmReality
IAmReality
It really never works that way, scheduling is really what it is all about. From 1981-85 I picked the National Champion base on the schedules to be played.
It is harder today to do that, as when they added the 12th game many teams use that to pick up a mid to higher level opponent to make more money.
10 wins in 1980 didn't mean elite, just as it does not today. Was Clemson or BYU really the best team in the land at that time?
Very doubtful.
Notice you see teams like Bama mostly scheduling the cream buffs and it has not hurt them in any way. And Bama's schedule has a lot to do with getting to 10 wins 3 times since 2000, playing a harder schedule they will likely not see 10 wins.
It really never works that way, scheduling is really what it is all about. From 1981-85 I picked the National Champion base on the schedules to be played.
It is harder today to do that, as when they added the 12th game many teams use that to pick up a mid to higher level opponent to make more money.
10 wins in 1980 didn't mean elite, just as it does not today. Was Clemson or BYU really the best team in the land at that time?
Very doubtful.
Notice you see teams like Bama mostly scheduling the cream buffs and it has not hurt them in any way. And Bama's schedule has a lot to do with getting to 10 wins 3 times since 2000, playing a harder schedule they will likely not see 10 wins.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 6:54 pm
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