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TJG210 
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| Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:36 am)
Suprising!
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When it was introduced more than two years ago, the hope was that the experimental wind turbine near the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway in Mandeville would provide at least a portion of the power needed to run the 24-mile bridge. But preliminary results indicate that the wind machine may come up a little short.
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60-foot tall turbine thus far has not produced as much power as initially anticipated, although it has generated enough to energize a small house.
I wonder if this is the case how many years will it take to pay off the initial investment?
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But Dufrechou said the project may end up falling short of preliminary projections partly because the turbine isn’t tall enough to catch winds that come from the north. “If winds come from the south, from across the lake, it’s good,” he said. “But if the winds are from the north, they’re obstructed by the canopy of trees in Mandeville and it doesn’t produce as much energy.”
They didn't think of these things prior?
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:47 am to TJG210)
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They didn't think of these things prior?
they probably didn't need to. i'd wager a lot of federal subsidies were packaged in this deal
that's free money for local constituents/businesses to take advantage of
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Hammertime
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:53 am to SlowFlowPro)
What a bunch of morons. The thing needs one of those little rudder things like on the back of planes to keep it in the wind. Smaller ones have their benefits
A combo of solar and wind would probably do the trick for the Causeway
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mograyback 
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:55 am to TJG210)
You should read up on Agenda 21, will probably interest you.
I've been on it for a couple years, but Glenn Beck was actually promoting his book about it on O'Reilly tonight.
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Hammertime
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:11 am to mograyback)
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You should read up on Agenda 21, will probably interest you.
I've been on it for a couple years, but Glenn Beck was actually promoting his book about it on O'Reilly tonight.
Don't read, and don't watch O'Reilly. He is a grade A narcissist and it pisses me off. I certainly don't go getting my political news off of the internet. I stick to Walton & Johnson for that
Green Energy, IMO started as a money-making scheme. Had some merits, but zero long term because none of it is cost effective. I can give examples like I did in the other thread if you want
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North Texas Tiger
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:18 am to SlowFlowPro)
SFP. 246 k posts. That is incredible. Keep posting brother. 
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:47 am to TJG210)
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Wind turbines studies in several other communities around the country, including one in Milwaukee, have been successful, at least initially
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:55 am to TJG210)
How many times do you think Henry Ford tried before he got it right?
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Hammertime
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:13 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
He was an innovative engineer, not an idiot who jumps on the bandwagon to make money. People don't think before they act
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Zahrim
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 3:25 am to TJG210)
the moron who bought that turbine should be fired. anyone in the industry knows if you want a turbine that will produce power on a utility scale like they need has to be over 250 feet in height. 
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mograyback
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:17 am to Hammertime)
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Don't read, and don't watch O'Reilly. He is a grade A narcissist and it pisses me off. I certainly don't go getting my political news off of the internet. I stick to Walton & Johnson for that
Green Energy, IMO started as a money-making scheme. Had some merits, but zero long term because none of it is cost effective. I can give examples like I did in the other thread if you want
Back off the gas ace.
I'm just home with family this week and they have Fox on non stop, I saw that Glenn was promoting this book, which is a topic I've been interested in for awhile.
The topic of this thread ties in to the U.N Agenda 21, so if you want to makes sense of it, I'd try learning about if you're radio show doesn't cover it.
And reading might be cool if you knew what to read.
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 4:50 am to Hammertime)
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He was an innovative engineer, not an idiot who jumps on the bandwagon to make money. People don't think before they act
 you actually believe that.
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 5:27 am to TJG210)
By the time you account for maintenance costs, that thing will loose money.
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TheHiddenFlask 
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:18 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
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How many times do you think Henry Ford tried before he got it right?
How much money in government subsidies did he need?
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Bestbank Tiger 
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 6:57 am to TheHiddenFlask)
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How much money in government subsidies did he need?
No fair using facts and logic.
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TJG210
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 9:13 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
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How many times do you think Henry Ford tried before he got it right?
Not sure, but at least he did it on his own dime.
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PaddlingTiger
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:48 am to TJG210)
I guess wind energy is "folly" if you mean that low taxes in the form of Production Tax Credits have made wind energy one of the fastest growing segments of the energy industry, accounting for 35% of the growth in that industry for the past five years. There are now more than 400 manufacturers in 43 states building wind energy equipment. There are thousands of new jobs that have been created by the industry. The key to this growth has been stable tax policy and targeted tax cuts (ideas that I thought were near and dear to conservatives).
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junkfunky
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:58 am to TJG210)
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They didn't think of these things prior?
Probably. LSU has a building under design that was initially intended to have a few smaller wind turbines but after the report on the study came back it was deemed completely pointless. However, there was a brief discussion of the option to go ahead and install them but have them connected to an external power source that would "make them turn". 
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MJM
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:02 am to PaddlingTiger)
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The key to this growth has been stable tax policy and targeted tax cuts (ideas that I thought were near and dear to conservatives).
Only if it's going to oil and gas.
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junkfunky
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| re: Local example of the folly of "Green Energy" (Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:04 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
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How many times do you think Henry Ford tried before he got it right?
The automobile was viable everywhere. Thinking a wind turbine would work in this part of the country is asinine.
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