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| Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:11 am)
Revisionist History Myth #1: FDR was a great president who ended the great depression with the New Deal.
Fact: FDR was a power hungry tyrant who exploded the size and scope of government and prolonged the depression with the new deal.
Revisionist History Myth #2: The civil war was about slavery.
Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
Revisionist History Myth #3: JFK was a liberal hero who championed liberal values.
Fact: JFK was a fiscal conservative who would not find room in the democrat party today. He advocated for deep tax cuts, something that democrats to this day do not want to hear about and downplay.
Revisionist History Myth #4: Ronald Reagan was all for open borders and amnesty.
Fact: Reagan passed amnesty in exchange for tight border security and a closed border. But democrats with their typical Lucy & The Football ways never followed through on the border security part.
Revisionist History Myth #5: Democrats passed the civil rights act.
Fact: Republicans passed the civil rights act.
Revisionist History Myth #6: The Great Society was meant to help the poor and less fortunate.
Fact: LBJ passed the Great Society to keep minorities, now with full rights under the Civil Rights Act, as a permanent voting bloc of the democrat party.
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RollTide1987 
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:14 am to accnodefense)
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Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
The state's right to do what? Own slaves!
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:16 am to accnodefense)
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Revisionist History Myth #2: The civil war was about slavery.
Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:19 am to accnodefense)
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Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
The Civil War was about slavery...Nothing more, nothing less.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:24 am to accnodefense)
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Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
It was about economic and political power, which slavery was a huge part of.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:24 am to Amadeo)
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The Civil War was about slavery...Nothing more, nothing less.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:27 am to Amadeo)
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The Civil War was about slavery...Nothing more, nothing less.
Wrong. The War of Northern Aggression was about economics. If the North had allowed the South to secede is there any doubt with the coming industrial age that the South would have eliminated slavery on its own? Instead over 600 thousand Americans were killed needlessly so that the North could impose their will on the South. 
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RollTide1987
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:29 am to davesdawgs)
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Wrong. The War of Northern Aggression was about economics. If the North had allowed the South to secede is there any doubt with the coming industrial age that the South would have eliminated slavery on its own?
So you would have been completely okay with slavery extending its life into the 20th Century?
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:30 am to Amadeo)
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The Civil War was about slavery...Nothing more, nothing less.
Simple minds at work, i see.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:31 am to RollTide1987)
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So you would have been completely okay with slavery extending its life into the 20th Century?
Jesus, here it is. You mention that the Civil War was fought for states rights and not slavery and the idiots and apologists go full retard.
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RollTide1987
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:31 am to BugAC)
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You mention that the Civil War was fought for states rights
The state's right to do what?
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RollTide1987
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:34 am to BugAC)
Anyone?
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:35 am to RollTide1987)
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The state's right to do what?
To govern themselves. The confederacy seceded from the Union. Lincoln then tells the Southern states what they can and can not do. In essence, it was one nation telling another nation, you can't do that. And if you do, we will attack you.
Thus the nickname, the war of Northern Aggression.
I'm not arguing about the virtue of slavery, and whether it was right or wrong. It has nothing to do with it. But in political terms, it was one nation telling another what they can/cannot do.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:36 am to accnodefense)
Dude (or Dudette):
You can't just ignore the slavery bit and be taken seriously.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:37 am to accnodefense)
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Revisionist History Myth #1: FDR was a great president who ended the great depression with the New Deal. Fact: FDR was a power hungry tyrant who exploded the size and scope of government and prolonged the depression with the new deal.
The revision is your version...the truth may be somewhere in the middle. The fact is we can't test the theory that the New Deal prolonged it. FDR is a mixed bag - he definitely tried to strong arm his policies through in what at the time was viewed as an emergency situation - it was the Great Depression after all.
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Revisionist History Myth #2: The civil war was about slavery. Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
Again, your angle is the revision. The reason there was a north and south was slavery. The reason the South feared the Fed was because of the threat to slavery - nothing more nothing less. I find it pathetic that 21st century southerners are wasting time trying to justify a blot on our history.
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Revisionist History Myth #3: JFK was a liberal hero who championed liberal values. Fact: JFK was a fiscal conservative who would not find room in the democrat party today. He advocated for deep tax cuts, something that democrats to this day do not want to hear about and downplay. Revisionist History Myth #4: Ronald Reagan was all for open borders and amnesty. Fact: Reagan passed amnesty in exchange for tight border security and a closed border. But democrats with their typical Lucy & The Football ways never followed through on the border security part.
Each party has their myths....the Republicans have many around Ronald Reagan...a man who may have a tough time finding a home in the modern Republican party.
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Revisionist History Myth #5: Democrats passed the civil rights act. Fact: Republicans passed the civil rights act.
Northern progressives/liberals passed the Civil Rights Act....I don't think party affiliation is that important.
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:38 am to RollTide1987)
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Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
The state's right to do what? Own slaves!
Think again.
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RollTide1987
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:38 am to BugAC)
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To govern themselves. The confederacy seceded from the Union. Lincoln then tells the Southern states what they can and can not do. In essence, it was one nation telling another nation, you can't do that. And if you do, we will attack you.
But why did they want to govern themselves? What was the North doing at the time that made them want to secede? Why did they all just get up and quit when a Republican, whose main talking point was the opposition to the expansion of slavery, won the Election of 1860?
This post was edited on 11/20 at 11:39 am
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:39 am to Amadeo)
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Fact: The civil war was about state's rights and the south seceded because they were worried about the ever growing reach of the federal government.
The Civil War was about slavery...Nothing more, nothing less.
Somewhere a statist is smiling.
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PillageUrVillage
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:40 am to TrueTiger)
The civil war was fought over money... And yes, slavery was a large part of that.
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RollTide1987
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| re: Liberal Revisionist History myths (Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:40 am to bamafan1001)
Double post.
This post was edited on 11/20 at 11:43 am
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