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petar
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#frickedgeneration

fricked because we are stupid.


because we want a low interest student loan?

They are basically a guaranteed loan why do interest rates need to be high?
Students are already getting royally fricked on loans. High interest on high levels of debt right out of college is a great way to keep economic growth down.

Its stupid to charge interest while we are in school. Its stupid because its the only debt that you can't declare bankruptcy on.
Its stupid because we have no bargaining power on these loans.
Student loans are a problem and raising the interest rate would only exacerbate the issues







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Jake88
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I don't know. I imagine it's very unlikely. Stat mining ballots has to compromise the integrity of your choice to have reasonable anonymity with your vote.


I didn't mean who voted for whom, rather, how many reps, dems, and indys actually cast ballots. Both totals and percentages.






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TheOcean
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Eta: found a link, ignore my rant on capital gains for the super wealthy


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here’s no evidence that low capital gains tax rates boost the stock market, investment, or the economy. There is no sound evidence that cutting capital gains taxes to levels far lower than ordinary income tax rates contributes to economic growth at all — let alone enough to outweigh the significant economic cost of doing so. Federal Reserve economists concluded in 2005 that the capital gains and dividend tax cut in 2003 had little effect on the stock market. European and U.S. stocks moved together, both after the announcement of the U.S. tax cut and after the tax cut itself (see chart below). If the tax cut had boosted U.S. stocks, U.S. stocks should have performed better relative to European stocks, but they did not. As the Wall Street Journal stated, the study “concludes that the tax cut … was a dud when it came to boosting the stock market.”


LINK



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Crazy to think that Catholics and Jews voted for him considering his policies





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mikelowery1911
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According to Cnn's exit polls:

Obama won 70% of the Asian vote and 69% of the Jewish vote nationally.

Obama won 39% of the white vote nationally.

Obama won just 10% of the white vote in Mississippi and 15% in Alabama.

Obama won 50% of the Catholic vote

They all want free stuff






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Ortho Reb
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Mississippi


What about Jackson?






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Duke
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and eliminating taxes on interest, dividends, and capital gains for taxpayers with AGI less than $200,000


LINK






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Jake88
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They are basically a guaranteed loan why do interest rates need to be high?


What are the rates these days?






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petar
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have you ever read the tax code?


I have and most of its there for a reason. put a restriction on deductions and alot of non-profits would be hurting. Plus i don't know how much it would actually raise. And its an indirect tax increase because it raises the base income which has the potential to hurt the middle class the most because it could increase their tax bracket






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SlowFlowPro
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Or just widens the divide between the wealthy/upper-middle class and the lower class.

who gives a shit?

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We would have businessmen paying nothing in taxes.

huh? capital gains aren't income, and the threshold was low

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Can you find how cutting the capital gains taxes from 30% to 15% helped fuel investing in other companies?

it got us out of the last great recession of the 70s






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petar
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What are the rates these days?


One im paying in the 6% range

The other im paying in the 8-9% range







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j bro12
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Obama won 39% of the white vote nationally.
This is a bad sign for the country, imo.

I hope this doesn't show a racial divide, but I'm afraid it does.


Racial divide? How about the fact that Obama won 96% of the black vote?!?! But that shows no sign of racism right? GTFO



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SlowFlowPro
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because we want a low interest student loan?

why are they entitled to them?

an no. we're fricked b/c we're going to have to pay an inordinate amount of our GDP on public goods/services.

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Students are already getting royally fricked on loans.

American students are given an amazing deal on loans. you won't find a more open collegiate system in the world

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Its stupid because we have no bargaining power on these loans.

who put a gun to your head to take out student loans?

who stopped you from working?

who made you go to a school that was more expensive than you could afford?

answer: nobody






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I have and most of its there for a reason. put a restriction on deductions and alot of non-profits would be hurting.

this comment alone shows me you haven't read a lot of the tax code







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j bro12
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because we want a low interest student loan?

why are they entitled to them?

an no. we're fricked b/c we're going to have to pay an inordinate amount of our GDP on public goods/services.

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Students are already getting royally fricked on loans.

American students are given an amazing deal on loans. you won't find a more open collegiate system in the world

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Its stupid because we have no bargaining power on these loans.

who put a gun to your head to take out student loans?

who stopped you from working?

who made you go to a school that was more expensive than you could afford?

answer: nobody


All of this






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TheOcean
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See my above post on capital gains.


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capital gains aren't income


Technically speaking you're right.

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who gives a shit?


Most voters

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it got us out of the last great recession of the 70s


See my post above. There's no significant correlation between lessening the capital gains and increased investment.



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According to the report, GDP grew a healthy 38 percent in the decade between 1996 and 2006 (the last year before the boom-bust cycle of 2007-2008), with average inflation-adjusted after-tax income increasing about 25 percent. But that average conceals an astounding divergence in outcomes between the nation's richest and poorest citizens: while income of the wealtheist 1 percent nearly doubled, the bottom 20 percent actually saw their income decrease by 6 percent. And because the CRS analysis only used data from active tax filers, those numbers may even underestimate the true width of the income gap.



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petar
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who stopped you from working?


The florida bar, it forbids full time law students from having jobs.. i worked through undergrad

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who made you go to a school that was more expensive than you could afford?


All law schools are more expensive than i can afford and i even got a nice chunk paid for

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American students are given an amazing deal on loans.

False. Its basically a guaranteed loan. The rate should be lower or interest should not collect while the student is in school. To have both a high rate of interest and to collect that interest while during school is dumb. It should be one or the other. We get nothing in return for not being able to go default on it






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SlowFlowPro
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Technically speaking you're right.

when you take 4 tax classes, you learn the technicalities

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Most voters

why should i care what envious and irrational people think when discussing policy?

saying "stupid people will act and vote stupid" is basically saying "water is wet'

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There's no significant correlation between lessening the capital gains and increased investment.


you posted one study. i'm going to guess his definition of "investing" was skewed to fit his originally-intended goal

what are the receipts from capital gains, namely as a % of GDP?






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petar
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Oh so you think some magical things got put in the tax code for no reason?

Deductions are all there for various purposes like to encourage saving for retirement, donating to charities, etc.

remove these and it would have consequences. for example, it will raise people taxable income and could possibly put them in a higher tax bracket which is an indirect tax raise.

The tax code is not all that complicated if one has had even the most basic tax class






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TheOcean
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why are they entitled to them?


We should do all that we can to promote higher education. It is the only significant fact that will keep us competitive. You know this...

Obviously no one should be "entitled" to student loans, but if we're talking about what's wrong with our economy, I can promise you our educational spending is not the problem. In fact, we need to spend more on our education system.






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