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Harder to win on the road or at home? (college football)
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:36 pm
Just curious.
The polls don't seem to think this way. 4 out of 6 computer polls don't take this into account.
Looking at the numbers, (this info is take from another poster)
In the current coaches poll top 25, there are a total of 17 losses.
Of those 17 losses, 11 came on the road, 1 was at a neutral site, and only 5 occured at home. So that is more than twice as many losses on road games as opposed to home games.
In last years final bcs poll there were 57 total losses among top 25 teams. 7 of those occurred at neutral sites
of the 50 remaining 31 of the 50 came on the road, and 19 came at home. over a 3:2 ratio.
Seems much harder to win on the road. So when some teams can play 8 home games, 4 road games a year, I am sure they don't care about these stats.
But just wondering, how many road games has your team played?
The polls don't seem to think this way. 4 out of 6 computer polls don't take this into account.
Looking at the numbers, (this info is take from another poster)
In the current coaches poll top 25, there are a total of 17 losses.
Of those 17 losses, 11 came on the road, 1 was at a neutral site, and only 5 occured at home. So that is more than twice as many losses on road games as opposed to home games.
In last years final bcs poll there were 57 total losses among top 25 teams. 7 of those occurred at neutral sites
of the 50 remaining 31 of the 50 came on the road, and 19 came at home. over a 3:2 ratio.
Seems much harder to win on the road. So when some teams can play 8 home games, 4 road games a year, I am sure they don't care about these stats.
But just wondering, how many road games has your team played?
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:40 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:41 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
Obviously on the road. The percentage of home winners is over 60% in college football, I believe. Reference Scorecasting for the exact answer. Unintentional ref bias is the biggest factor.
One factor that Scorecasting does not look is that the home team has an easier schedule in college football because big teams like LSU have more home games, since they would never travel to Bumblefrick State.
One factor that Scorecasting does not look is that the home team has an easier schedule in college football because big teams like LSU have more home games, since they would never travel to Bumblefrick State.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:44 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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One factor that Scorecasting does not look is that the home team has an easier schedule in college football because big teams like LSU have more home games, since they would never travel to Bumblefrick State.
but those games honestly dont count much toward their rank.... yea its a win.... but a win over north texas isnt going to boost us past bama or florida in the polls regardless of where its played.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:52 pm to JDM1992
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Ya think?
I do think. But pollsters don't. I'm curious as to why they don't.
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:56 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:57 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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I do think. But pollsters don't. I'm curious as to why they don't.
Oh they sure do. See South Carolina.
Posted on 10/16/12 at 7:23 am to ToesOnTheNose213
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So when some teams can play 8 home games, 4 road games a year, I am sure they don't care about these stats.
SEC burn?
Posted on 10/16/12 at 9:17 am to LNCHBOX
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SEC burn?
Any team that does this, not specifically SEC teams.
Posted on 10/16/12 at 9:23 am to JDM1992
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Seems much harder to win on the road
Ya think?
Ergo his point, people still don't factor it in. In fact, quality opponent is always touted as the be all and end all over going on the road to face a mediocre team.
Oh wow, Florida had to play LSU!! Most difficult opponent ever! Big whoop...it was at home and pissy-pants UF doesn't leave the State once the rest of the way.
I'd rather see UF travel to Corvallis or Cal or UCLA to see how awesome they are.
Kudos to Notre Dame - they went on the road early and won. Except for LSU, teams from the South hardly travel with a damn and it's so much easier winning at home and racking up phony records.
This post was edited on 10/16/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/16/12 at 9:28 am to Zamoro10
College football is the only sport where I think Home/Away actually makes a difference.
Posted on 10/16/12 at 10:48 am to Tactical1
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College football is the only sport where I think Home/Away actually makes a difference.
You must not watch college basketball
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:06 am to RoscoeHarper
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You must not watch college basketball
Just the tournament.
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:06 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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The percentage of home winners is over 60% in college football
Do you not think this number is not overinflated because of the number of big conference schools that play cupcakes at home always?
I'm not disagreeing that it is harder to win on the road but I'd like to see what the percentage in only taking conference games, or at least games against other BCS conference opponents, into account.
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:29 am to Zamoro10
I agree that 4 absolute cupcakes even in addition to an 8 game conference schedule is too many but does this really happen as often as your point may be making it seem?
However, as much as I hate the money-making home cupcakes, the money it means for local economies of teams that bring 100k fans likely means they're not going away.
It seems though that to only pick out LSU -- which certainly has scheduled well recently -- isn't entirely accurate.
Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn et al seem to be making very positive efforts for years to take on a high profile, tough OOC foe every year, no?
So is this criticism really any more true for the SEC than most other big BCS schools?
Also, Florida, for example, has often been criticized for playing in state in years where @FSU or @Miami simply being in Florida completely gloss over other elements like having a tough OOC "rivalry" game. ( I'd venture a guess that Florida's record would have been better a few years had they played @Iowa instead of @FSU). The same could be said for South Carolina with Clemson and to some degree Georgia/Georgia Tech.
To me the important thing isn't really whether huge programs have 3 money making games, it's how many of the rest they actually play against somebody that could potentially challenge them.
However, as much as I hate the money-making home cupcakes, the money it means for local economies of teams that bring 100k fans likely means they're not going away.
It seems though that to only pick out LSU -- which certainly has scheduled well recently -- isn't entirely accurate.
Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Auburn et al seem to be making very positive efforts for years to take on a high profile, tough OOC foe every year, no?
So is this criticism really any more true for the SEC than most other big BCS schools?
Also, Florida, for example, has often been criticized for playing in state in years where @FSU or @Miami simply being in Florida completely gloss over other elements like having a tough OOC "rivalry" game. ( I'd venture a guess that Florida's record would have been better a few years had they played @Iowa instead of @FSU). The same could be said for South Carolina with Clemson and to some degree Georgia/Georgia Tech.
To me the important thing isn't really whether huge programs have 3 money making games, it's how many of the rest they actually play against somebody that could potentially challenge them.
This post was edited on 10/16/12 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/16/12 at 11:49 am to ToesOnTheNose213
I looked at this a couple years ago, for just SEC games over the last 10 years, and I believe there were mixed results. A few teams had better road records. I actually think home/away is further down the list of impacts.
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