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I'm sick of hearing the media doubt our QB
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:03 am
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:03 am
The coaches don't give him a chance to succeed. I'm going to count the slant passes when I watch the replay, but 90% of our passing game is slants and 12 yard out routes. The defense knows exactly what to cover, and they can stack safeties in to stop the run which also puts them in position to help on slants.
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Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:08 am to Choupique19
Game plan by the coaches tonight was spot on...
SC has 22 sacks coming into the game, you are starting 2 freshmen on the OL....
SC got 1 sack
With this type of protection, you will see Mett progress.
SC has 22 sacks coming into the game, you are starting 2 freshmen on the OL....
SC got 1 sack
With this type of protection, you will see Mett progress.
This post was edited on 10/14/12 at 1:09 am
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:12 am to stho381
I will admit that we passed a little bit more on neutral downs. However, the defense works all week on reading slant routes and short sideline routes. There is almost no reason to keep a safety deep in the middle of the field. We almost never throw it there.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:44 am to Choupique19
quote:Maybe just maybe the coaches see more than you in practice and know what he can and can't do well.
The coaches don't give him a chance to succeed. I'm going to count the slant passes when I watch the replay, but 90% of our passing game is slants and 12 yard out routes. The defense knows exactly what to cover, and they can stack safeties in to stop the run which also puts them in position to help on slants.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:53 am to Tigers4Lyfe
So you think that Mett can only complete slants and out routes? Guess you never watched him in junior college. Don't give me the "but it's not a SEC defense". Watch some football on Saturday's and find a team outside of the Service Acadamies that have a more simple passing game than LSU.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:57 am to Choupique19
What a joke. Landry converted first downs on a slant route. He also converted on a drag. Oh and he converted on on an out route. We completed 3 or 4 hitches. We completed 2 screens passes. What most of you don't understand is that coverage usually dictates the routes. Slants are routes that work against every coverage therefore are used more often. Especially when we are trying to negate their pass rush.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:04 am to Choupique19
Save it for another game; I've been critical of the playcalling too, but the coaches did a great job today. Someone else already posted the key numbers. Carolina had nearly four sacks a game on average coming in, left with one.
Why? Because the coaches stuck to quick passes, like slants and short out routes, which have the advantage of minimizing the time duration of the play - meaning the (new, somewhat inexperienced) offensive line doesn't have to block Clowney and friends for more than a few seconds.
This was more of an issue last week, where the playcalling all around was so unimaginative that Florida might as well have been in the huddle. This week it was well done.
Why? Because the coaches stuck to quick passes, like slants and short out routes, which have the advantage of minimizing the time duration of the play - meaning the (new, somewhat inexperienced) offensive line doesn't have to block Clowney and friends for more than a few seconds.
This was more of an issue last week, where the playcalling all around was so unimaginative that Florida might as well have been in the huddle. This week it was well done.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:12 am to GeauxWarrior12
I love the end zone cover floater It was classic... The defender never had a chance but sadly neither did our 6'5" Tight End cause he threw it 10 ft over the man's head... What about the earlier pass sailing over the wide opened receiver's head that was a sure TD. That was Classic too..
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:13 am to GeauxWarrior12
The interception was a slant, and one of the biggest plays of the night, a 3rd down completion on an LSU scoring drive was trips receivers, all slants. It wasn't open early, but Mett held onto the ball until Landry cleared the backside linebacker.
Can someone look up the receivers yards after catch this year? We get almost none because of the types of throws we are making.
As for "save it for another night", if it was only this game that we ran the quick routes, I'd agree with you. But it's been for 4 weeks in a row now.
Can someone look up the receivers yards after catch this year? We get almost none because of the types of throws we are making.
As for "save it for another night", if it was only this game that we ran the quick routes, I'd agree with you. But it's been for 4 weeks in a row now.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:16 am to JohnLSU
JohnLSU must be talking about the Jarvis Landry back pedal. You say the ball was overthrown, then why was Landry back pedaling? Seems like a dumb thing for a receiver to do instead of running underneath the ball.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:17 am to Choupique19
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So you think that Mett can only complete slants and out routes? Guess you never watched him in junior college. Don't give me the "but it's not a SEC defense". Watch some football on Saturday's and find a team outside of the Service Acadamies that have a more simple passing game than LSU.
For Mett to attempt the deep passes, the o-line would be expected to keep Clowney and Taylor away from the QB for at least 4-5 seconds. There is a reason why Mett was only sacked once. The one time that he got sacked, he was looking deep for a receiver. The play-calling for the most part was fine.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:19 am to Choupique19
The interception (and I may be remembering this wrong) was from Mett misfiring. An individual instance where the play develops after a few seconds isn't indicative of a norm, either. In fact, I'd think a slant with a delayed delivery would be a good mix-up in a gameplan like tonight's... an answer to the very charge of predictability you made in the op.
Our receivers have bad YAC because they don't catch
hopefully after tonight's generally positive showing this improves.
And I get that we've done it for multiple games. What I'm saying is that you're calling it out on the one game in those four weeks that actually called for the gameplan we used....
Our receivers have bad YAC because they don't catch
hopefully after tonight's generally positive showing this improves. And I get that we've done it for multiple games. What I'm saying is that you're calling it out on the one game in those four weeks that actually called for the gameplan we used....
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:22 am to coldhotwings
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The play calling was fine
Then why are people bashing the qb? I heard the ESPNU guys discussing him and they were saying he was struggling. I'm just saying that starting in 2009, Les Miles treats the qb position as an unimportant position. He thinks he can win without a qb. It cost us on 1/9/12, and it cost us at Florida last week.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:22 am to Choupique19
Dude the fade route to Jacobs on 3rd and Goal was horrid.
Jut as the third down slant to Landry was money.
Mett is inconsistent at this point and that's reality. I think there's something to be said for the design of the pass plays and what we ask him to do at certain times. But he's very uncomfortable and not confident in the pocket.
He's also always after the big play at the expense of wide arse open secondary choices that would move the sticks with greater consistency.
Great win, awesome work, but work yet to do.
Jut as the third down slant to Landry was money.
Mett is inconsistent at this point and that's reality. I think there's something to be said for the design of the pass plays and what we ask him to do at certain times. But he's very uncomfortable and not confident in the pocket.
He's also always after the big play at the expense of wide arse open secondary choices that would move the sticks with greater consistency.
Great win, awesome work, but work yet to do.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:27 am to GFunk
No doubt the fade pass was bad. But I think part of that is Les in his head, "no interceptions". Look, I know he's not perfect, but all qb's make a poor throw every now and then. You have to keep at it and TRUST your qb to make some plays. How many pass attempts did we have inside the 20 yd line tonight? How many times did we score a red zone td tonight? I think one out of 5 trips. 
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:31 am to lsutothetop
They doubt him, because this "ain't" Butler JC and he can't play in the SEC!!! Watch ANY team in the SEC that played today, and their QB looked better than him. Hell I think maybe even Missouri's & Auburn's might even have looked better than he did.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:34 am to Choupique19
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Then why are people bashing the qb? I heard the ESPNU guys discussing him and they were saying he was struggling.
Because he HAS been struggling. There is a lot of truth to what the media says. He has accuracy issues on his intermediate routes, tends to hold the ball for too long, has ball security issues, stares down his receivers, and has almost no accuracy whatsoever on a roll-out. Looks like two of those issues were addressed prior to this game. Mett will make a fine QB prospect for an NFL team someday but right now his game has holes all over it. The game vs SCar was a big step in the right direction in correcting his deficiencies.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:35 am to Rodeopope
It's the coaches scheme. The defense has to prepare for two passing routes, that's it. There's a reason our passing game has ranked in the bottom 20 of the nation for 3 straight years, and Mett has only been here for one of those.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:36 am to Rodeopope
Mett Doesn't check off the safeties. Seems like they were right there with the corners every play.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 2:51 am to Choupique19
"I was protected very well for most of the night," Mettenberger said. "We had a great game plan. They wanted me to get the ball quick out of my hands because they had a great defensive line."
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