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re: Which posters care more about offensive production over winning?

Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:52 pm to
I don't understand what people don't like about winning games.

Every team in the country has issues outside of 1.

We would look like the biggest idiots in the world if we ever fired anyone as successful as Miles.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:52 pm to
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Why should it be 20? We didnt win the football game. I guess you just think we entitled to win every single game we play because we are LSU.


Did you even watch the game Saturday? If we had just moved the ball (keeping our defense off the field) we win the game!

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Clearly you can't comprehend. This is completely irrelevant to what I even said. The fact of the matter is you should not win a game just because you score 14 points.


Everything has to be black and white for you? You can't comprehend that improving the offense will improve the chances of beating a team like Bama?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:54 pm to
everything is perfect?? The only 2 choices are fire miles or leave everything the exact same forever? (Including making adjustments at halftime)
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:56 pm to
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lulz we have won 19 out of 21 games and you want "more wins"

Yeah, of the 'two' games we lost, one cost us the NC and the latest one will probably cost us another one. The margin for error in the SEC West is slim because everyone knows who is coaching Bama and they don't drop too many games. Forgive me for expecting highly talented LSU teams to win big games like BCSNGC and SEC road games.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:58 pm to
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Forgive me for expecting highly talented LSU teams to win big games like BCSNGC and SEC road games.


Tread carefully....you will be called out as a bad fan for this
Posted by Tigah n T-town
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Dec 2003
1178 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:59 pm to
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I want to beat Alabama, period.


Living in Alabama I fixed it for you
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79130 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:59 pm to
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While I know we have things to work on , on offense , I'm smart enough to see that injuries have decimated our oline.
but we are not adjusting to those injuries.

our offensive gameplan rolls on along as if there were no injuries in the first place.

if the OL has been decimated, then there has to be an adjustment to the mindset of the gameplan to help out the new guys on the OL that have yet to gel or learn their way around the college game.

can u tell me if the coaches are helping out the line in that respect?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 2:59 pm to
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Did you even watch the game Saturday? If we had just moved the ball (keeping our defense off the field) we win the game!


Yes, I watched the game. We didn't move the ball though. Our defense did stay on the field. We did give up 14 points. We did lose the game. So saying we should have won the game is pretty dumb at this point, because we clearly didn't. Florida outplayed us in the second half and wore us down. Is that just not allowed to happen at LSU? They were the better team that day and they got the win.

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You can't comprehend that improving the offense will improve the chances of beating a team like Bama?


Dude you still make no sense at all. Where in my post did I say that moving the football won't improve our chances of beating Bama? Good God. The original poster that I responded to said that we should have won because we only gave up 14 points and should win every single game where that happens. My comment was related to defense and you are talking about offense. My point in saying that Bama gave up 9 points and yet lost to us was that it happens all the time that a team gies up 14 and loses. I never uttered a word about not improving our offense or not moving the ball against Bama.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:02 pm to
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the latest one will probably cost us another one


Actually you couldn't be further from being correct. This loss didn't hurt our chances of winning the national championship at all. If we fail to improve on offense and lose another game, that will hurt our chances.

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Forgive me for expecting highly talented LSU teams to win big games like BCSNGC and SEC road games.


Then which game is it okay for LSU to lose in your book? Go ahead and say it...never. You never think LSU should lose a game.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:02 pm to
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everything is perfect?? The only 2 choices are fire miles or leave everything the exact same forever? (Including making adjustments at halftime)


I said just the opposite. Every team has issues.

And there's a huge difference between constructive criticism and our spoiled arse fan base.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:03 pm to
Didn't we have this exact thread yesterday ?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:04 pm to
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Is that just not allowed to happen at LSU? They were the better team that day and they got the win.


When you have better talent it shouldn't fricking happen! They didn't have a better team they had a coach that went into the lockeroom and made adjustments. He saw that passing was a liability and changed things.

If florida was the better team that day are you also going to say their coaching staff was better?

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Dude you still make no sense at all. Where in my post did I say that moving the football won't improve our chances of beating Bama? Good God. The original poster that I responded to said that we should have won because we only gave up 14 points and should win every single game where that happens. My comment was related to defense and you are talking about offense. My point in saying that Bama gave up 9 points and yet lost to us was that it happens all the time that a team gies up 14 and loses. I never uttered a word about not improving our offense or not moving the ball against Bama.


It is really said that everything you read you take literally. An improved offense will improve our chances of winning games against teams with great defenses. How can you not comprehend that?
Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:04 pm to
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It seems as if a lot of posters think that putting up 500 yards in a win is some how better than putting up 300 yards in a win. This is something i just don't understand. 5 years from now , you won't remember the yardage , but only that we won.


I am certain that I havent seen anyone here say they would rather us put up 500yds and dont really care if we win, as long as we pile up points and yards. Never, not once. We have some crazies around here but thats just dumb shite.

What most of the people on this board wants is an offense that we can count on. An offense that strikes a little fear into opposing defenses. An offense that can, on occasion, bail out our amazing defense. The fact of the matter is, we arent looking for 75pts a game and Geno Smith #'s from Mett. We just want to be solid in every phase of the game with each phase able to come through when the other is down. Plain and simple its a complete football team. That is what we had last year and the result was as expected.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260342 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:05 pm to
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I am not a huge fan of Les though.


I wouldn't replace him with anyone coaching today (college) with one notable exception but I do think his stubbornness inhibits the school a bit. He made a home run hire in Chavis, recruits very well and is a decent CEO of the program but needs to let go of the offense.

As far as production the two go hand in hand. I have little doubt that you started seeing the problems in the SECCG, and they carried forward to the NCG.

Production and excellence go hand in hand. LSU can have a half arse offense this year and still get to some mid level New Years Day Bowl. His philosophy isn't going to win championships anymore. LSU had a once in a program combo of special teams and defense last year.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79130 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:05 pm to
to be honest, i could give a shite about winning right now.

I just want the team to play well, period.

that's something they haven't done since Washington.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260342 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:07 pm to
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The only 2 choices are fire miles or leave everything the exact same forever?



No shite. Some of these sunshine pumpers are some stupid M'fers.

There are thousands of opinions on the program, not just two.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:07 pm to
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If florida was the better team that day are you also going to say their coaching staff was better?


Absolutely, the won the football game. I think they played better when it counted and I think their coaches were better. They had a good game plan in the second half and executed it to perfection.

The team with more talent doesn't always win. Thats why the games are played. To say you should NEVER lose to a team with less talent is retarded.

ULM beating Arkansas.
NC State beating FSU.
Stanford beating USC.
Rutgers beating Arkansas.

All teams with much less talent than Florida has beating someone with more talent this year.

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It is really said that everything you read you take literally. An improved offense will improve our chances of winning games against teams with great defenses. How can you not comprehend that?


You are still not even talking about the same thing I was talking about and now you are telling me its sad that I take everything literally. I don't know where you are going with this. I never ONCE said that an improved offense would not improve our chances of winning. Please quote me where I said that. How can you not comprehend that.

This post was edited on 10/10/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:09 pm to
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to be honest, i could give a shite about winning right now.


Com'on Egg. I know you care about winning.

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I just want the team to play well, period.


We do that and winning is gonna take care of itself.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79130 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:11 pm to
course i want that over anything.

but i'll take a solid, solid effort right about now.

and it's not even about moral victories at this point, just play well, and be smart.

stop the absolutely retarded boneheaded penalties, and get your mind in the damn game. stop costing an already struggling offense yardage.

and for god's sake...no more delay of game penalties bc the play's taking too long to be called into the huddle.
Posted by Chuck U Farley
The 318
Member since Oct 2007
8994 posts
Posted on 10/10/12 at 3:12 pm to
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No shite. Some of these sunshine pumpers are some stupid M'fers. There are thousands of opinions on the program, not just two.


Agreed. If you dont agree with everyones opinion, or at least the majority, your an idiot. Truth is there are some very knowledgable people on this board but you have to read a bunch of garbage to find the good stuff
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