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We are getting what we asked for
Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:57 am
We are getting what we wanted here guys. We wanted more passing and we are getting it. Obviously we see why we ran so much before the recievers aren't what we and the coaches expected they were. Blocking is garbage.
I think what we are seeing is a transition period for our O. Going from a 75% run to more of a balanced game with MAJOR growing pains.
I think what we are seeing is a transition period for our O. Going from a 75% run to more of a balanced game with MAJOR growing pains.
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:58 am to TigerDat
Poor O line play
Atrocious WR play
What the hell happened to OBJ? Dude was a stud as a freshman, now he's a liability.
Atrocious WR play
What the hell happened to OBJ? Dude was a stud as a freshman, now he's a liability.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:59 am to TigerDat
Tards get what they want and still not happy...
It comes down to execution..... Beat up oline plus inconsistant WR play equals bad offense....
It comes down to execution..... Beat up oline plus inconsistant WR play equals bad offense....
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:01 am to The Mick
I agree. I think OBJ is trying to do too much and playing tight trying to live up to the hype
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:01 am to TigerDat
Development of the players?
Play calling that makes us weaker?
Literally no rational corrections at half since the UGA game last year?
Head coaches philosophy?
Play calling that makes us weaker?
Literally no rational corrections at half since the UGA game last year?
Head coaches philosophy?
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:04 am to Corn Dawg Nation
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It comes down to execution..... Beat up oline plus inconsistant WR play equals bad offense....
Gotta like that ^. When Mett did make the throws, the WR's would make the catches. The whole Off is just way out of sync. That first drive was nice. After that, nothing would work together.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:05 am to TigerDat
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Going from a 75% run to more of a balanced game with MAJOR growing pains.
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2011
591 rush attempts 68%
279 pass attempts 32%
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2012
241 rush attempts 62%
146 pass attempts 38%
387 total
don't let facts get in the way of your cool story, bro. a 6% difference is not that a huge change. But, keep making up crap.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:05 am to Child of the Missip
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Development of the players?
At what point to we have to hold the players accountable for throwing, catching, blocking, etc.?
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Play calling that makes us weaker?
Agreed.....at this point we should go back to bruising the ball running (if our O Line is up to the task) because passing ain't working for us and I don't think it is worth 2-3 more losses to get it right.
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Literally no rational corrections at half since the UGA game last year?
Sounds about right.
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Head coaches philosophy?
I said yesterday I'd love to sit with Les and ask him what exactly it is we try to do on offense. I mean what does he think that we can go out there and do and beat damn near anyone on the field with?
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:06 am to TigerDat
LSU's receivers look like studs - problem is they just drop everything.
Program needs to buy some better tacky gloves. Les too concerned with physical specimens instead of recruiting guys who can just play and catch. No great receiver wants to play in a ground and pound straight ahead run system and for a coach with QBs who suck.
Program needs to buy some better tacky gloves. Les too concerned with physical specimens instead of recruiting guys who can just play and catch. No great receiver wants to play in a ground and pound straight ahead run system and for a coach with QBs who suck.
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:20 am to The Mick
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Poor O line play
Atrocious WR play
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:24 am to hashtag
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don't let facts get in the way of your cool story, bro. a 6% difference is not that a huge change. But, keep making up crap.
Ok smart guy now break it down for jus the Towson and UF game since those are the 2 worst games we had. Beginning of the season we ran most of the time and everyone was bitching to throw it. The last 2 weeks have been noticeable more thrown alsmost to the point of forcing it. It is a shock to the system. This team was built to run and now seems we are trying to change that some so we have hicc ups
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:31 am to TigerDat
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Ok smart guy now break it down for jus the Towson and UF game since those are the 2 worst games we had. Beginning of the season we ran most of the time and everyone was bitching to throw it. The last 2 weeks have been noticeable more thrown alsmost to the point of forcing it. It is a shock to the system. This team was built to run and now seems we are trying to change that some so we have hicc ups
i'm sorry that i don't overreact to a few games and anomalies. We are going to have games where we throw more, and games where we run more. And here's a shocker, it's been like that every year since Les Miles has been here.
And, when you start playing a good DL like Florida with an injured and sucky OL, they aren't going to let you run the ball. You're gonna have to throw it a little more. My point is that Les Miles' philosophy isn't going to change. Sure, you'll have some games that are slightly different.
We passed 57% of the time against Towson and 50% of the time against UF (mainly because they stuffed the run and we were in a position to have to try to score the last drive or 2). We had 9 straight pass attempts in the last 5:43 of the game, because we were actually trying to score. That happens and it skews the stats.
With Les Miles, we are a 60-70% rushing team. We are still that this year and will always be.
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:33 am to hashtag
btw, prior to the last two drives when we HAD to throw the ball, we had ran the ball 61% of the time against Florida.
We aren't getting any more passing than we've ever gotten with Les Miles. So, your original post is flawed.
We aren't getting any more passing than we've ever gotten with Les Miles. So, your original post is flawed.
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:35 am to TigerDat
Florida ditched Charlie the Hutt as its offensive coordinator and brought in a brand new offensive coordinator - Brent Pease, who's been coaching up at Boise State. No experience coaching in the SEC. And he seems to be doing fine, w/ minimal "growing pains." It CAN be done. Miles does not have the brainpower to run a successful offense in the SEC.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:40 am to TigerDat
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What the hell happened to OBJ? Dude was a stud as a freshman, now he's a liability
This.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:51 am to Zamoro10
quote:When?
LSU's receivers look like studs
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:54 am to The Mick
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What the hell happened to OBJ? Dude was a stud as a freshman, now he's a liability
He was bad arse as a freshman.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:58 am to TigerDat
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We wanted more passing and we are getting it.
I think most people would be happy with a passing game that is based off of play-action, or drop back passes that are actually called on neutral downs. The only reason our passing attempts were up last Saturday is because the running game produced absolutely nothing. There is a reason the running game hasn't done anything since Idaho. Auburn, TOWSON, and Florida did not even respect LSU's passing game. They knew that they didn't have to defend it, because Les Miles is too stubborn to actually attack a defensive secondary. The very few pass routes that are called, are deep outs run to the sidelines that produce a 15 yard gain at most. It does absolutely nothing to move safeties out of the running lanes.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:05 am to Choupique19
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There is a reason the running game hasn't done anything since Idaho. Auburn, TOWSON, and Florida did not even respect LSU's passing game. They knew that they didn't have to defend it, because Les Miles is too stubborn to actually attack a defensive secondary. The very few pass routes that are called, are deep outs run to the sidelines that produce a 15 yard gain at most. It does absolutely nothing to move safeties out of the running lanes.
While I think you are partially correct, I think that most people are seriously underestimating how bad injuries have hurt our OL. The backups either aren't very good, are being put in a position to fail, or just aren't executing very well. We also lost the guy who won the starting job at RB during the offseason.
also, we've been extremely predictable in the running game. No misdirection at all. We've run about 3 different running plays and all we do is flip them.
In addition, it is extremely difficult to attack a defense downfield when your OL is struggling as much as we have been. Our OL has really handcuffed everything this team wants to do.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 10:13 am to TigerDat
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I agree. I think OBJ is trying to do too much and playing tight trying to live up to the hype
yeah and the last pass he dropped was total lack of concentration,
but the fumble was not totally all his fault- when he caught that pass ,I'm sure in the back of his mind-he was thinking that, we have not scored all day in the redzone and we REALLY need me to score to win this game, so he sticks out the stiff-arm to ward off the defender the guy gets under the stiff arm and, that disables OBJ from being able to bring his left arm down to secure the ball with two hands.If he had to do it again, he would probably realize his jobs is to catch and secure the ball and not try to make up for other players inability to perform in critical moments which put stress on the team. ----------------------------------------------------------------
I agree. I think OBJ is trying to do too much and playing tight trying to live up to the hype
yeah and the last pass he dropped was total lack of concentration,
but the fumble was not totally all his fault- when he caught that pass ,I'm sure in the back of his mind-he was thinking that, we have not scored all day in the redzone and we REALLY need me to score to win this game, so he sticks out the stiff-arm to ward off the defender the guy gets under the stiff arm and, that disables OBJ from being able to bring his left arm down to secure the ball with two hands.If he had to do it again, he would probably realize his jobs is to catch and secure the ball and not try to make up for other players inability to perform in critical moments which put stress on the team. ----------------------------------------------------------------
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