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re: This Ed O Bannon lawsuit could alter college sports as we know it
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:47 am to RandySavage
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:47 am to RandySavage
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Why do you support ridiculous and frivolous lawsuits filed by broke losers who blew a golden opportunity with no other avenue to follow in life?
Players squandering their money doesn't necessarily mean they should give up the royalties their likeness may afford them.
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Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:54 am to Y.A. Tittle
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However, the NBA has (probably rightly) determined that collectively as an organization, it needs the exposure of NCAA basketball to help create interest in its product
no doubt. this is the reason why they adopted the 1-year rule. free exposure
the NBA's rules aren't nearly as draconian as the NFL's rules, though. you honestly don't have to partake in the NCAA pipeline to get into the NBA. there is europe (brandon jennings), prep school, and the NBA allows guys to go straight to the NBDL, i believe.
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This seems to be the whole trick bag of this situation, and where I think what a lot of these people think they want, would ultimately be a case of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
the real solution is to figure out a way to let NCAA athletes endorse products for money. the NCAA doesn't have to pay shite. there is no EP argument. etc etc etc
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:56 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Plus, that problem would be with the professional league, not the NCAA, since the NCAA doesn't enforce or have that rule, the league does.
You can certainly play in the NFL without college, just have to be 3 years after your graduating high school class, that's the requirement. No rule on "how" you spend that 3 years.
therein lies the rub
and we all know the supreme court allows the NBA to have a 1-year rule, and the NFL to have a 3-year rule
short of some documents linking the NCAA and NFL/NBA into some sort of hidden agreements to suppress athletes' property rights to gain an advantage, i don't see how he'll be able to prove his case
hell, nothing prevented o'bannon from saying "frick college" and just going for endorsement deals before he was even out of high school. this further illustrates the "gotcha" in the argument b/c none of us would know who ed o'bannon was WITHOUT the NCAA
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:58 am to Pilot Tiger
Love free enterprise. Just believe free enterprise in collegiate athletics is the downfall of collegiate athletics as we know it.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:59 am to nicholastiger
he mad because he didn't get paid enough by channel one
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:59 am to Rig
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Just believe free enterprise in collegiate athletics is the downfall of collegiate athletics as we know it.
what if kids got to endorse products while in college?
Posted on 10/3/12 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
The problem is that elite NCAA athletes are abused. Yes 95% of the athletes are "compensated" fairly with scholarships, stipends, etc. But athletes like AP are well undercompensated for the exposure they bring to NCAA sports. And when you consider the damage that is down to RB in such a short amount of time, there is a lot of value that is never compensated.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:That opens a whole new can of worms in this debate.
what if kids got to endorse products while in college?
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:02 pm to Rig
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That opens a whole new can of worms in this debate.
how?
it provides a reasonable way for the kids to profit off their likeness without any funding from the NCAA/schools
you don't get title 9 issues
you don't get equal protection issues
nobody forces the kids to do endorsments
etc
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:03 pm to C
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And when you consider the damage that is down to RB in such a short amount of time, there is a lot of value that is never compensated.
well without the NCAA, do you think AP gets that kind of contract in his 4th year out of high school?
don't you think the infrastructure and exposure the NCAA gave him helped him out just a bit?
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well without the NCAA, do you think AP gets that kind of contract in his 4th year out of high school?
I think they did a study on all 5 star players showing most ended up in the NFL. So yes I think an NFL team would drop $5M/yr on AP straight out of highschool. They did it with basketball players. They still do it with baseball. They do it with soccer. I could see waiting on some linemen or QBs. But RB, WR, kickers, and LB would easily be given big contracts straight out of highschool.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:10 pm to C
yes the NCAA needs to pay the players but take away the free scholarships.. Make them pay for it... there you go 
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the NBA's rules aren't nearly as draconian as the NFL's rules, though.
Why is it "draconian" if it is, in large part, what actually serves to create the value for the organizations that ultimately allow them to pay the salaries they pay?
Everyone likes throwing out business analogies in these discussions I'd argue college athletes who go on to play pro sports, get the equivalent of an unpaid internship before doing so. Happens for other students in other fields all the time.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:16 pm to xenythx
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Ed O'Bannon must be broke.
He should pay me for pain and suffering for all the multiple times him and his brother have come into 24 Hr. Fitness here in Vegas and run pickup games on me and my friends.
I thought getting dunked on by Kedrick Brown in high school was bad...
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Yeah but the biggest difference is their bodies fall apart over time. Especially RB. And by the time most "earn" a big contract in the NFL they are on the back part of their career.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:19 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Why is it "draconian" if it is, in large part, what actually serves to create the value for the organizations that ultimately allow them to pay the salaries they pay?
Creates some value to the pro leagues but not the only value.
Also The popularity of college football and by extension the draft, has been on the shoulders of the NFL not vice versa. At least on a national scale.
This post was edited on 10/3/12 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:21 pm to nicholastiger
Think about the recent national success and fan fare of the honey badger and even patrick peterson. How much money do you think LSU and other companies made off of him? The number is in the millions and if Tyrann doesn't play another down of football he'll never see any of that money. I'm sorry but that just not fair no matter how you spin it.
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:27 pm to C
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So yes I think an NFL team would drop $5M/yr on AP straight out of highschool
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They did it with basketball players.
basketball players can produce in the NBA at 18
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They still do it with baseball. They do it with soccer
these guys don't get big deals until they hit the majors, for the most part
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Why is it "draconian" if it is, in large part, what actually serves to create the value for the organizations that ultimately allow them to pay the salaries they pay?
i just mean 1 year is a lot different than 3 years
i think a lot of NCAA FB players can get marketable in 1-2 years, and be of quality enough to get drafted
Posted on 10/3/12 at 12:28 pm to Sterling Archer
It's a two way street
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